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JAMES VALADEZ: GOOD MORNING I'D LIKE TO CALL THE TRAVIS CENTRAL
[1. Call to Order]
APPRAISAL DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS TO ORDER. THE TIME IS CURRENTLY 11:31 ON TUESDAY, JANUARY 28, 2025. WE'RE CONDUCTING THIS MEETING AT TCAD HEADQUARTERS LOCATED AT 850 EAST[2. Establishment of Quorum]
ANDERSON LANE IN AUSTIN, TEXAS AND A QUORUM IS PRESENT. WE'RE ALSO PROVIDING THIS MEETING THROUGH ONLINE BROADCAST AS A COURTESY.BEFORE WE BEGIN, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND WELCOME A NEW MEMBER TO OUR BOARD.
MR. JOHN HAVENSTRITE JOINS US AS AN APPOINTED MEMBER WITH A THREE YEAR TERM. WELCOME JOHN. WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU. I'M GOING TO SPARE EVERYBODY THE SOUND OF MY VOICE TODAY AND HAND IT OVER TO OUR VICE CHAIR, MISS CARTWRIGHT, TO LEAD THE MEETING TODAY.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: AND IF I GET MESMERIZED BY THE SOUND OF MY OWN VOICE, SOMEBODY STOPPED ME.
YOU KNOW, YOU GIVE A LAWYER A MICROPHONE, AND ALL SORTS OF BAD THINGS HAPPEN. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST DANIEL, YOU'LL HAVE TO JUMP IN AND MAKE ME STOP. AND THERE'S SEVERAL LAWYERS HERE. WE'LL ALL BE FIGHTING FOR THE MICROPHONE, RIGHT JETT? DICK? IT'S GOING TO BE BAD.
I'M REALLY HAPPY TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR CHAIRMAN THIS MORNING, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM THREE, THE EXECUTION OF
[3. Execution of Oath of Office and Statement of Officer for All Board Members]
OATH OF OFFICE AND STATEMENT OF OFFICER FOR ALL BOARD MEMBERS.COPIES OF BOTH THE OATH AND STATEMENT ARE INCLUDED IN THE BOARD PACKET SO YOU CAN SEE THEM, BUT I BELIEVE THEY'VE BEEN DISTRIBUTED ALSO SO THAT YOU CAN FILL THEM OUT. FILL THEM OUT, EXCEPT FOR THE SIGNATURE, WHICH WILL BE DONE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME. BOARD MEMBERS ARE REQUIRED TO SIGN THE DOCUMENTS AND RETURN THEM TO THE DISTRICT STAFF BEFORE LEAVING TODAY, AND THE DISTRICT STAFF WILL BE AVAILABLE AFTER THE MEETING TO NOTARIZE THE OATH OF OFFICE FOR YOU. AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO ASK ALL BOARD MEMBERS TO STAND AS DAVINA BARTON LEADS US THROUGH BOTH ITEMS, AND IT REALLY IS AN HONOR TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE WORLD. THANK YOU, DAVINA FOR HELPING US WITH THIS.
BY THE AUTHORITY OF THE STATE OF TEXAS. I DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT DO SOLEMNLY SWEAR THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF DIRECTOR OF THE TRAVIS CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT OF THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND WILL, TO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY TO PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES, OF THIS STATE, SO HELP ME, GOD.
I, DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT, DO SOLEMLY SWARE THAT I HAVE NOT DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY OFFERED, PROMISED TO PAY, CONTRIBUTED, OR PROMISED TO CONTRIBUTE ANY MONEY OR PROMISED ANY PUBLIC OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT FOR THE GIVING OR WITHHOLDING OF A VOTE AT THE ELECTION OR AS A REWARD TO SECURE MY APPOINTMENT OR CONFIRMATION, WHICHEVER CASE MAY BE SO, HELP ME GOD.
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM FOUR, THE ELECTION OF OFFICERS
[4. Election of Officers]
FOR THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, THE CHAIRPERSON, VICE CHAIRPERSON AND SECRETARY, TREASURER. JUST AS A REMINDER, THOSE THREE OFFICES ARE STATUTORY. THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE BASICALLY LAID OUT IN THE PROPERTY TAX CODE. WE MUST ELECT EACH OF THESE POSITIONS, AND SO WE WERE TAKING NOMINATIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME.BLANCA ZAMORA GARCIA: I HAVE A NOMINATION DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: BLANCA BLANCA ZAMORA GARCIA: YES, I MOVE TO REELECT OUR CURRENT EXECUTIVE BOARD MEMBERS. JAMES VALADEZ AS CHAIR, DEBBIE CARTWRIGHT AS VICE CHAIR, AND NICOLE CONLEY SECRETARY/TREASURER.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: THERE'S A SECOND FROM JETT HANNA FOR THE ELECTION OF THE SLATE OF OFFICERS. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, LET'S, LET'S HAVE A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE. AYE. THOSE AGAINST. IT'S UNANIMOUSLY IN FAVOR OF THE SLATE OF OFFICERS. CONGRATULATIONS TO US, I GUESS.
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AND I WANTED TO SAY BEFORE THIS, I WAS NOT AUDITIONING FOR THE POSITION OF CHAIR WHENEVER I'M DOING THIS, SO I'M DOING THIS AS A HELP TO MY CHAIRPERSON. ITEM, FIVE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.[5. Citizens Communication]
CITIZENS WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE BOARD.WHILE CITIZENS MAY SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC, THE BOARD CANNOT ACT OR COMMENT ON ANY SUBJECT NOT LISTED ON TODAY'S AGENDA. DO WE HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK TODAY? LEANA MANN: WE DO NOT.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: SO WE'LL MOVE ON. AS A REMINDER, WE TAKE REMOTE COMMENTS. SO IF ANYBODY WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS MEETING THROUGH THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. THEY COULD DO SO REMOTELY. SO IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU KNOW OF ANYONE WHO CAN'T ATTEND THE MEETING BUT WANTS TO MAKE A COMMENT, THERE IS A PROCEDURE FOR DOING THAT. ITEM SIX IS THE CONSENT AGENDA. THESE
[6. Consent Agenda]
ITEMS WILL BE ACTED ON ON ONE MOTION, AND THEY'RE LISTED IN YOUR AGENDA. EACH OF THE ITEMS, NO SEPARATE DISCUSSION OR VOTE ON ANY OF THE ITEMS WILL BE HELD UNLESS REQUESTED BY BOARD MEMBER. SO IF YOU SEE ANYTHING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA THAT YOU'D WANT TO HAVE REMOVED SO YOU CAN DISCUSS IT INDIVIDUALLY, PLEASE DO SO. IT INCLUDES THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF DECEMBER 9, 2024 AT THE REGULAR MEETING, THE SECTION 25 POINT 25B REPORT, WHICH IS A SECTION OF THE TAX CODE THAT ALLOWS THE CHIEF APPRAISER TO MAKE MINISTERIAL CHANGES IN THE APPRAISAL ROLE THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANY KIND OF TAX CONSEQUENCE, AND WE USUALLY HAVE A LONG LIST OF ERROR CORRECTIONS AND THINGS THAT ARE FAIRLY ROUTINE ON THE 25.25B REPORT. I KNOW Y'ALL GET TIRED OF PEOPLE SAYING 25.25B AND GOING TO TALKING ABOUT IT IN SHORTHAND, BUT IT IS A TAX CODE SECTION THAT PERMITS IT, ACCOUNTING STATEMENTS AND THE PERSONNEL REPORT. AND THE PERSONNEL REPORT BASICALLY LISTS PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECEIVED PROMOTIONS OR NEW HIRES AND THE LIKE. THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CHIEF APPRAISER. CAN LOOK OVER THAT FOR A FEW MINUTES, IF YOU'D LIKE, AND SEE IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS THAT YOU'D LIKE TO HAVE PULLED FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION. SORRY, ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED. ALL RIGHT, WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. DO I HEAR A MOTION? SHENGHAO WANG: SO MOVED.DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: OKAY, DICK LEVINE HAS IS HE? DID DICK MAKE THE MOTION.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: I'M SORRY. DANIEL MADE THE MOTION. DICK SECONDED. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, NO OPPOSITIONS. APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU. THE NEXT
[7. Regular Agenda]
ITEM IS ITEM SEVEN, WHICH IS THE DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE APPOINTMENT OF A MEMBER TO THE AGRICULTURAL ADVISORY BOARD.[a. Discussion and Possible Action on Appointment of AG Advisory Board]
THIS IS A BOARD THAT'S REQUIRED IN THE TAX CODE. YOU'LL SEE IT ON YOUR SCREEN RIGHT NOW, THE STATUTORY SECTION THAT THAT CREATES THIS PARTICULAR BOARD. THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS APPOINTS IT. THEY MUST BE PEOPLE, MUST BE LANDOWNERS WITHIN TRAVIS COUNTY, AND THEY ARE ASKED TO GIVE INPUT TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER IN DEVELOPING OPEN SPACE LAND AND AGRICULTURAL APPRAISAL SCHEDULES, BOTH IN TERMS OF WHAT KIND OF LAND IS TYPICALLY USED FOR, WHAT PURPOSE, INCOME AND EXPENSE INFORMATION AND OTHER DATA THAT IS COLLECTED BY THE CHIEF APPRAISER AND DEVELOPING APPRAISALS OF OPEN SPACE LAND SO THE CHIEF APPRAISER HAS SOMEONE THAT SHE'D LIKE TO TO PRESENT TO US AT THIS POINT IN TIME AS A NEW APPOINTEE. AND I ASSUME THIS IS FILLING SOMEONE ELSE'S SPACE.IS THAT RIGHT? LEANA MANN: THESE ARE JUST REAPPOINTMENTS. SO ALL THREE MEMBERS THAT ARE UP FOR REAPPOINTMENT, IT WOULD BE FOR THE TERM OF JANUARY 1, 2025, THROUGH DECEMBER 31, 2026. DAN DEERSKI. HE'S BEEN ON OUR BOARD SINCE 2000. CLIFF KESSLER HAS BEEN ON THE AG ADVISORY BOARD SINCE 2010 AND THEN LINDA HALL HAS BEEN ON THE BOARD SINCE 2017 AND ALL ARE WILLING TO CONTINUE TO SERVE.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: AND HOW OFTEN DO THEY MEET? LEANA MANN: ONCE TO TWICE A YEAR.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS OF THE CHIEF APPRAISER ABOUT THESE APPOINTEES? HEARING NONE. WE NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE THREE MEMBERS TO THE AGRICULTURAL ADVISORY BOARD.
BLANCA ZAMORA GARCIA: I STILL MOVE.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: BLANCA HAS MOVED TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENT. IS THERE A SECOND? DICK LAVINE, SECONDS THE MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. THOSE OPPOSED. CARRY NO OPPOSITION THEY'RE APPROVED. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS, I'M GOING TO
[b. Discussion on Report from Board Operating Policies Committee]
LUMP THEM TOGETHER, 7B AND 7C WHICH ARE DISCUSS, DISCUSSION[c. Discussion and Possible Action on Proposed Revisions and Adoption of Board of Directors Operating Policies and Code of Ethics]
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OF ETHICS FOR THE BOARD. I WAS ASKED, I'M ON THE COMMITTEE, THE POLICIES COMMITTEE THAT WORKED ON ON THIS PARTICULAR MATTER, ALONG WITH NICOLE CONLEY AND JAMES VALADEZ, AND WE TOOK SOME TIME TO REVIEW. IS THERE ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE? LEANA MANN: BLANCA DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: BLANCA, I'M SORRY YOU WERE ALSO ON THE COMMITTEE. WE TOOK SOME TIME REVIEWING THE BOARD POLICIES AND THE CODE OF ETHICS IN TERMS OF STATUTORY CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, THE CODE OF ETHICS HAVEN'T BEEN ADJUSTED OR CONSIDERED FOR OVER 10 YEARS, IS THAT CORRECT? AND SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS TIME FOR US TO SPEND SOME TIME LOOKING AT IT TO MAKE SURE THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH NEWLY ELECTED MEMBERS, AND WE HAVE A DIFFERENT CONFIGURATION OF A BOARD THAN WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, THAT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE WERE UP TO DATE WITH PROVISIONS IN OUR POLICIES AND ALSO IN OUR CODE OF ETHICS. SO I'M GOING TO IF YOU'LL LOOK IN YOUR PACKETS TO PAGE 131 OF THE PACKET, WHICH IS PAGE SEVEN OF THE BOARD POLICIES.THE CHIEF APPRAISER HIGHLIGHTED NEW LANGUAGE ALL THE WAY THROUGH, SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT CHANGES WERE MADE.
THE FIRST ONE IS UNDER SECTION SIX, OPEN GOVERNMENT TRAINING AND COMPLIANCE. WE'VE ALL BEEN REQUIRED TO DO OPEN MEETINGS AND TRAINING ACCORDING TO STATE LAW, BUT WE SUSPECT THAT THE LEGISLATURE MAY TAKE ACTION THIS TIME TO REQUIRE OTHER TRAINING OF BOARDS OF DIRECTORS THAT SEEMS TO BE A SUBJECT THAT IS IS MAKING ITS WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT BOARDS OF DIRECTORS NEED TO BE TRAINED BY THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE. SO IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT IT WAS INCLUDED, WE PUT IN LANGUAGE ALL MANDATORY TRAINING REQUIREMENTS OUTLINED BY STATE LAW, WHICH I THINK IS A WILL BE A GOOD MOVE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT WHAT WE DO, AND WE GET THROWN INTO THIS JOB SOMETIMES WITH VERY LITTLE UNDERSTANDING OF THE STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS. AND SO WE'VE THAT IS WHY THAT LANGUAGE IS THERE. AND FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AS WE'RE GOING ALONG.
WE DIDN'T MAKE ANY CHANGES ON PAGES NINE THROUGH 13, BUT THOSE ARE ALL STATUTORY PROVISIONS THAT GIVE RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS. AND I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT ABOUT THESE PAGES IS THAT EACH ONE OF THESE THINGS IS LISTED SHOWS THE STATUTORY PROVISION THAT AUTHORIZES IT OR REQUIRES IT.
AND IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO GO BACK AND FORTH TO SEE EXACTLY YOU KNOW WHAT IS REQUIRED BY LAW. AND THERE ARE MANY THINGS, AS YOU CAN TELL THAT THE LAW REQUIRES THAT THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MUST DO AND SO FROM THINGS LIKE ESTABLISHING THE APPRAISAL OFFICE, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT AFTER THIS MANY YEARS. I MEAN THAT IT'S ESTABLISHED, BUT THEN IT GOES THROUGH. AND ONE THE PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY OF THE BOARD IS TO HIRE THE CHIEF APPRAISER. ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT RESPONSIBILITY IS ADOPTING A BROAD BUDGET REAPPRAISAL PLAN EVERY TWO YEARS, HOW HIRING LEGAL COUNSEL, SELECTING AN AUDITOR, SELECTING A BANK DEPOSITORY AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT YOU CAN SEE STATUTORILY WHAT'S REQUIRED ON THOSE PAGES IF YOU GO ALONG THEN TO PAGE 139 WHERE YOU SEE A LOT OF YELLOW. THIS IS TO MAKE TO CLARIFY THE END OF THE AUTHORITY OF INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS. THE THESE STATEMENTS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FOLLOWED BY THE BOARD, AND THESE ARE ALSO MATTERS THAT MANY SCHOOL DISTRICTS INCLUDE IN THEIR BOARD POLICIES ABOUT USE OF DISTRICT RESOURCES, THAT WE WORK AS A BOARD, AND WE DON'T HAVE INDIVIDUAL AUTHORITY, THAT THE CHIEF APPRAISER, BASICALLY IS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF THE DISTRICT, AND WE AS A BOARD COMMUNICATE WITH HER. THERE'S ONE SENTENCE IN HERE THAT I HAVE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR SOMEONE TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU, IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION ABOUT IT, AND IT'S THE FOURTH BULLET POINT ON PAGE 139 NO DIRECTOR MAY COMMUNICATE WITH DISTRICT STAFF IN INFORMAL MEETINGS OR ANY OTHER MANNER CURRENT CONCERNING HIS OR OTHER HIS OR HER PROTEST FILED WITH THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD. THIS HAS COME UP IN OTHER INSTANCES. IT'S NEVER COME UP HERE, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, BUT I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN CASES IN THE PAST WHERE A, AS YOU KNOW, AT AN ARB, IF ANYBODY CAN FILE A PROTEST, AND YOU ALL OF US HAVE THE ABILITY TO FILE PROTEST REGARDING THE VALUE OF OUR
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PROPERTY, OUR INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY, THE PRACTICE OF THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT, AND MOST APPRAISAL DISTRICTS, IF NOT ALL, IS TO HAVE WHAT ARE CALLED INFORMAL MEETINGS WITH THE STAFF BEFORE PROTEST HEARINGS, SO PEOPLE CAN WORK OUT DIFFERENCES INFORMALLY WITH THE STAFF AND NOT HAVE TO GO TO AN ARB HEARING, AND THEN THEY SIGN A SETTLEMENT AND WAIVER FORM SAYING WE AGREED TO THE DETERMINATION AND WE WAIVE OUR FORMAL APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD HEARING. THIS IS A PROHIBITION AGAINST THIS BOARD DOING THAT WITH A STAFF MEMBER, AND I THINK YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHY. YOU CAN IMAGINE THE PRESSURE A STAFF PERSON WOULD HAVE IF A BOARD MEMBER CAME DOWN AND TRIED TO INFLUENCE HIM OR HER REGARDING THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. AND SO IF YOU WANT TO PROTEST THE VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY, YOU MAY, BUT YOU HAVE TO GO TO A FORMAL ARB HEARING. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GO TO TALK TO A STAFF MEMBER. SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S IN THERE.IT'S NOT TO BE NOT TO PUT YOU DENY YOU AN AVENUE OF SETTLING A CASE THAT'S OFFERED TO OTHER PEOPLE, BUT MORE TO GIVE THE STAFF THE ASSURANCE THAT THEY'RE NOT IN COMMUNICATING WITH THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS REGARDING THE VALUE OF THIS PROPERTY. THE REST OF THESE PROVISIONS ARE VERY CLEARLY PART OF THE CODE OF ETHICS. ALSO THESE ARE ETHICAL CONSIDERATIONS.
DICK LAVINE: QUESTION ABOUT A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS ATTENDING A AN ARB HEARING. WHAT IS THE FEELING ON THAT? DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: I BELIEVE THAT THE PROVISION IS THAT THE NEXT SENTENCE, IN FACT, SAYS NO DIRECTOR SHALL APPEAR DURING THE PROTEST PROCESS BEFORE THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD OR BEFORE THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS AS AN ADVOCATE FOR HIMSELF OR HERSELF OR ANY OTHER PERSON, BUSINESS ENTITY OR PROPERTY, UNLESS HE OR SHE DISCLOSES TO THE BOARD HIS OR HER POSITION RESPONSIBILITIES.
DICK LAVINE: I WAS THINKING NOT, NOT A PROTEST IN WHICH YOU'RE INVOLVED, JUST TO OBSERVE, TO SEE HOW THE HEARING GOES, AND ALSO POSSIBLY WHAT CHARACTERISTICS WE WOULD LOOK FOR IN CHOOSING AN ARB MEMBER, SEEING HOW THEY OPERATE.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: I PERSONALLY THINK YOU CAN DO THAT, SO LONG AS YOU'RE NOT APPEARING AS AN ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF ANYONE.
AND IF YOU DO THAT, THEN YOU DO HAVE SAY I'M A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF IN YOUR POSITION, DICK LAVINE: BE AN OBSERVER.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: AN OBSERVER, YEAH, YEAH, A VERY QUIET OBSERVER, YES, JETT.
JETT HANNA: DEBRA, I HAVE A GENERAL LAWYERLY TYPE QUESTION, AND THAT IS WHAT THE AUTHORITY IS OF THESE POLICIES AND THE THE BOARD, THE CODE OF ETHICS AND JUST IF, IF ONE OF THESE WERE TO VIOLATE STATE LAW OR THE US CONSTITUTION, THEN THEY WOULDN'T BE OF ANY EFFECT. I GUESS. WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: I AGREE WITH THAT, OKAY.
JETT HANNA: AND SO DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: I ALSO BELIEVE THAT THE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT WE DEVELOP BOARD POLICIES, AND SO IT DOES HAVE THE BACKING OF LAW.
JETT HANNA: OKAY. AND SO, AND THERE ALSO ISN'T ANY ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM THAT'S SPELLED OUT FOR THESE POLICIES DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: UNDER THE CODE OF ETHICS, THERE IS AN ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM.
JETT HANNA: AND WHAT IS THAT? ENFORCEMENT? DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: OKAY. I WILL GO AHEAD AND JUMP TO THAT. IT IS ON PAGE 176 OF YOUR PACKET. FIRST OF ALL, AN INDIVIDUAL HAS TO FILE A COMPLAINT. SO IF THERE HAS BEEN A I'M JUMPING IN. I'M SORRY YOU HAVEN'T FOUND IT. YEAH, IS EVERYBODY FOUND IF SOMEONE BELIEVES THAT A DIRECTOR HAS VIOLATED ANYTHING IN THE TAX CODE OR ANYTHING, I'M SORRY, A PROVISION OF THE CODE OF ETHICS, WHICH INCLUDES ALL THOSE THINGS THAT I JUST WAS TALKING ABOUT, THEY HAVE TO FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE BOARD CHAIRMAN, AND THEN THE COMPLAINT HAS TO BE CLEAR. AND IF THE CHAIRMAN IS THE ACCUSED, THE ONE WHO IS ACCUSED OF HAVING A VIOLATION, IN THE VICE CHAIR HAS TO TAKE OVER THE ROLE OF ESTABLISHING A COMMITTEE TO REVIEW EVERYTHING. THEY HAVE TO HAVE THREE MEMBERS ON THAT COMMITTEE TO HEAR THEM COMPLAINT, AND THEN YOU'LL SEE AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS IN ADVANCE OF A COMMITTEE HEARING, THE COMMITTEE SHALL NOTIFY THE DIRECTOR. AND SO IT'S BASICALLY A LITTLE HEARING PROCESS IN WHICH YOU REVIEW IT AND DECIDE NUMBER SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT. THEN. SAYS WHAT THE COMMITTEE
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CAN DO AS A RESULT OF A VIOLATION. THEY SEND A LETTER OF NOTIFICATION WHEN THE VIOLATION IS CLEARLY UNINTENTIONAL, SO YOU DIDN'T INTEND TO TO WHATEVER THING THAT IT WAS THAT YOU ARE ACCUSED OF DOING. THEN YOU GET A NOTIFICATION LETTER. THEN YOU CAN GET A LETTER OF ADMONITION IF THE COMMITTEE FINDS THE VIOLATION IS MINOR, BUT NOT IT WAS MORE THAN UNINTENTIONAL. A REPRIMAND IS THE NEXT SANCTION IF THE VIOLATION HAS BEEN COMMITTED INTENTIONALLY OR WITH DISREGARD TO THE CODE OF ETHICS, OR THE FOURTH THING IS A RECOMMENDATION CAN BE MADE TO FOR THE MATTER TO OR AN APPROPRIATE AUTHORITY FOR IF THE COMMITTEE FINDS THAT IT IS SERIOUS OR REPEATED VIOLATION HAS BEEN COMMITTED INTENTIONALLY, THEN THE THE AUTHORITY IS IN SUBSECTION EIGHT, THE YOU CAN EITHER REPORT IT TO THE COUNTY ATTORNEY, THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY, OR THE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION, SO THAT THOSE ARE THE STEPS THAT WOULD BE TAKEN, WOULDN'T BE AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMED THERE WAS A VIOLATION THAT ACTUALLY BE A LITTLE COMMITTEE HEARING PROCESS THAT WOULD BE DONE INTERNALLY TO DETERMINE THE AND THOSE ARE THE OPTIONS THAT ARE OFFERED. WE DIDN'T MAKE THESE THINGS UP ON OUR OWN. THIS IS USED BY OTHER TAXING ENTITIES WHEN DEALING WITH THINGS, AND SO WE FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO TO DO THIS, AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S ENFORCEMENT AND ANY VIOLATION.JETT HANNA: OKAY. AND ONE FINAL THING, AND I MAY HAVE JUST MISSED IT. BUT DOES THIS INCLUDE ELECTION LAW COMPLAINTS IN ANY WAY CONNECTED WITH ELECTION OF BOARD MEMBERS? DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: IF SOMEONE FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE BOARD THAT THERE WAS AN ELECTIONEERING VIOLATION, LET'S SAY I THINK WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE TO FORM THIS COMMITTEE AND THEN LISTEN TO IT AND THEN REALIZE WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO ADMINISTER OR ENFORCE THIS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO REPORT IT TO THE TEXAS ETHICS COMMISSION. SO IT WOULDN'T BE THAT WE WOULD IMPOSE ANY KIND OF SANCTIONS. WE WOULD REPORT IT WITH A STATEMENT, IF A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE THE I'M MAKING THIS UP NOW WE THE BOARD, ARE NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THE LEVEL OF AUTHORITY THAT WE HAVE IN THIS SO WE'RE REFERRING THIS MATTER TO YOU.
JETT HANNA: OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ALL RIGHT, IF WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT PAGE THAT ON PAGE 140 DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: YOU'RE WELCOME.
IT'S JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THE CHAIR DOESN'T HAVE TO APPOINT ALL OF THE STANDING COMMITTEES. THERE MAY BE A COMMITTEE THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE APPOINTED FOR A YEAR, SAY, EXEMPT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THE REAPPRAISAL PLAN IS IS DEVELOPED EVERY TWO YEARS. SO SINCE THE COMMITTEES ARE A ONE YEAR TERM, THERE PROBABLY WOULD BE A YEAR IN WHICH YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO A REAPPRAISAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT. SO THESE ARE ALLOW, ALLOWABLE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD CHAIR, AND THEN IF YOU'RE CALLING IT TO A COMMITTEE, YOU SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD, OF THE BOARD CHAIR, AND YOUR APPOINTMENT IS FOR ONE YEAR, AND IT'S ONE OF ONE CALENDAR YEAR, I BELIEVE. IS THAT RIGHT? OKAY? AND THEN ANOTHER IMPORTANT MATTER THAT WE DISCUSSED, AND YOU'LL SEE THIS IS ON A NUMBER 16 IS THE AGENDA. WE HAVE NEVER HAD A BOARD POLICY WITH REGARD TO THE AGENDA, HOW IT'S TO BE ESTABLISHED, AND HOW THINGS ARE PUT ON IT, AND THAT SORT OF THING. IT'S ALWAYS HAPPENED MAGICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF APPRAISER, MAGICAL. YES, ACTUALLY, IT'S USUALLY BEEN A COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE BOARD CHAIR, DICK, AS YOU KNOW, AND THE CHIEF APPRAISER. BUT THIS ESTABLISHES HOW, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. THE CHIEF APPRAISER HAS GIVEN PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY FOR DEVELOPING THE AGENDA, AND WE HAD A LOT OF INPUT FROM NICOLE AND OTHERS ABOUT THIS, ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF THE PLANNING CALENDAR, AND HOW THERE ARE CERTAIN DATES AND CERTAIN TIMES DURING THE YEAR THAT THINGS HAVE TO BE DETERMINED, AND THE CHIEF APPRAISER IS BETTER EQUIPPED TO SET THINGS ON THE AGENDA AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME THAN ANY OF US ARE. AND SO THE CHIEF APPRAISER HAS FIRST, FIRST LINE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ESTABLISHING THE AGENDA, AND SHE SHALL ESTABLISH PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA ACCORDING TO THE PLANNING SCHEDULE. IF ANY OF US WANT TO PUT ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUEST IT, AND WE SHOULD SUBMIT IT TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER 10 DAYS BEFORE THE SCHEDULED MEETING. SO THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW NEEDS TO GO ON THE AGENDA, OR SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT YOU'D WANT TO SEE ON THE AGENDA, SUBMIT IT TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER AT LEAST 10 DAYS IN ADVANCE. YOU COULD DO IT TWO OR THREE MONTHS IN ADVANCE. YOU
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COULD SAY, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT SUCH BUDGET ITEM ON IN ADVANCE OF THE BUDGET DISCUSSION MEETING IN AUGUST OR SOMETHING.SO YOU CAN DO IT IN ADVANCE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT TILL 10 DAYS OUT. YOU CAN DO IT WELL IN ADVANCE, BUT 10 DAYS IS THE DEADLINE. AT THAT POINT THE CHIEF APPRAISER THAT SUBMITS IT TO THE BOARD CHAIR TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE ADDED TO THE AGENDA, AND WHATEVER THE ITEM IS, THERE SHOULD BE AN ACTION ON IT. IN OTHER WORDS, REFER IT TO COMMITTEE MAKE SURE THAT IT'S BEING HANDLED IN SOME MANNER OR PUT ON A UPCOMING AGENDA OR A FUTURE AGENDA, SO THERE WOULD BE AN ACTION ON ANY MATTER THAT SHE FELT STRONGLY NEEDED TO BE ON A NEW AGENDA WILL NOT BE DISREGARDED. SO YOU AT LEAST FURTHER THROUGH THIS NEW PROCEDURE, YOU'LL KNOW HOW THAT'S GOING TO BE HANDLED IN THE FUTURE. YES, I'M SORRY. YES.
DICK LAVINE: SORRY. BUT GOING BACK TO THE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS. IT SEEMS TO ME A LITTLE TOO RIGID THAT THE ASSIGNMENTS WILL BE ANNOUNCED AT PRESUMABLY OUR NEXT MEETING, SINCE WE JUST ELECTED THE CHAIR. IS THERE ANY PROVISION IF SOMETHING COMES UP MID YEAR TO APPOINT COMMITTEES? DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: THERE IS NOT, BUT THAT COULD BE ADDED.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD A STATEMENT THAT AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD, CHAIR, A DISH, THE TIMING CAN BE ADJUSTED FOR APPOINTMENT? DICK LAVINE: YEAH, IT'S NECESSARY.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: MS. MANN, COULD YOU ADD? AND THEN, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUGGESTION, BECAUSE IT MIGHT COME UP THAT WE REALLY NEED TO LOOK AT. WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE CHIEF APPRAISER SEARCH. YEAH, IT'S AN EXAMPLE. BUT YEAH, THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS ABRUPTLY THAT WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT. GOOD POINT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER ADJUSTMENTS THAT YOU'LL SEE ON THAT SECTION THAT'S, I DON'T MEAN TO RUSH ALL. I'M JUST TRYING TO, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STOP ME AT ANY TIME, MESMERIZED BY MY VOICE. BOARD MEETINGS. IT'S CLARIFIED THAT OUR BOARD MEETINGS OR WILL BE HERE. THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT SAYS THAT INDIVIDUAL BOARDS HAVE THE ABILITY TO REQUIRE IN PERSON MEETINGS ARE TO ALLOW OFF SITE OR REMOTE ATTENDANCE AT MEETINGS, AND SO WE HAVE CHOSEN TO PROHIBIT REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY BOARD MEMBER MEMBERS. SO YOU MAY WANT TO DISCUSS THIS. DICK.
YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT NOT ALLOWING REMOTE PARTICIPATION. I PARTICIPATED IN OUR LAST MEETING OF THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD COMMITTEE REMOTELY FROM FROM LOS ANGELES, AND I THINK IT WORKED PRETTY WELL. I DON'T KNOW HOW IT APPEARED TO THE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, BUT I WAS ABLE TO HEAR VERY CLEARLY. THE VIDEO WAS QUITE GOOD, AND I WAS ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS OF THE APPLICANTS. I'M A TRUSTEE OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN EMPLOYEES RETIREMENT SYSTEM, AND WE DO ALLOW REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY TRUSTEES, BUT I UNDERSTAND IN THE PAST, THERE'S BEEN A PROBLEM HERE OF INATTENTION. AND THE RULES, OF COURSE, VERY CLEAR. YOU HAVE TO BE LIVE ON SCREEN AT ALL TIMES, AND IF YOU'RE EVEN STEP AWAY, YOU'RE SHOWN IT'S ABSENT FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME. SO THERE'S A REAL INCENTIVE TO ACTUALLY BE THERE IN PERSON, REMOTELY? JETT HANNA: YES, I THINK I WOULD REALLY FAVOR CHANGING THIS POLICY. FIRST OF ALL, I THINK OUR TECH IS PRETTY SOUND, AND I THINK THERE MAY BE MORE AND MORE SITUATIONS, IT'LL BE DIFFICULT TO GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER. AND IF WE DO HAVE THAT OPTION IN THERE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD ONE TO HAVE. I PERSONALLY INTEND TO COME UP HERE AS MUCH AS I CAN. BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED AND I NEEDED TO BE HOUSE BOUND, FOR SOME REASON, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK THAT WAY.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: ANY OTHER INPUT? NICOLE.
NICOLE CONLEY: I WANTED TO GO BACK TO THE WHAT YOU WERE CLARIFYING ABOUT THE AD. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? SORRY, SORRY. I WANT TO GO BACK TO YOUR COMMENT,DICK, ABOUT. WAS IT FOR AN INCLUSION OF AD HOC COMMITTEES, THE ALLOWING FOR THE POSSIBILITY OF AD HOC COMMITTEE, OR WAS IT THE CHANGING OF THE DAY? I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY.
DICK LAVINE: NO, I WAS USING MY EXPERIENCE LAST WEEK WITH THE ARB COMMITTEE AS AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE COULD HAVE ATTENDANCE AT A FULL BOARD MEETING. OKAY WITH THE PROVISION YOU HAVE TO REMAIN LIVE ON SCREEN AT ALL TIMES.
NICOLE CONLEY: BECAUSE I WOULD BE AMENABLE TO ADDING SOME LANGUAGE HERE ABOUT THE YOU KNOW. SO WE MAY, YOU KNOW,
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DEVELOP AD HOC COMMITTEES AT ANY SUCH TIME APPROPRIATE. BUT, DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: WELL, I THINK HE'S MOVING ON TO PAGE 141 AND HE YOU WANTED, IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, RIGHT? DICK, YOU WANT TO SAY REMOTE PARTITION, BUT PARTICIPATION BY BOARD MEMBERS MAY BE ALLOWED. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING? DICK LAVINE: YES, WITH THE PROVISION ABOUT BEING LIVE ON SCREEN AT ALL TIMES.DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS MATTER, I WILL, I WILL SAY THAT I REALLY PREFER IN PERSON PARTICIPATION BY BOARD MEMBERS. IT'S AN OLD FASHIONED NOTION, I REALIZE. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT SOME LENGTH AT OUR COMMITTEE MEETING.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THAT IT'S WRITTEN AS IT IS. WE FEEL THAT GETTING TO KNOW EACH OTHER PERSONALLY, RATHER THAN REMOTELY, IS ALWAYS BETTER. WE FEEL LIKE WE CAN HAVE MORE OPEN DISCUSSION IN THIS WAY. WE ALSO ARE CONCERNED THAT WE THERE WOULD NOT BE NECESSARILY FULL INVOLVEMENT BY THE REMOTE PARTICIPANT, THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING THE THING THAT I CAN'T DO, WHICH IS MULTITASKING, AND WE, WE PREFER TO HAVE YOUR FULL ATTENTION AT OUR BOARD MINUTE MEETINGS, WHICH IS WHY THE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN AS IT IS. BUT I THINK WE SHOULD JUST VOTE ON THIS SENTENCE RIGHT NOW. DO YOU WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK COMING? SHOULD WE HAVE AN UP AND DOWN VOTE ON THIS CHANGE, OR CHIEF APPRAISER? LEANA MANN: ONE CLARIFYING POINT. SO THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT DOES REQUIRE THAT A QUORUM OF THE BOARD IS PRESENT IN PERSON, SO WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE MULTIPLE PEOPLE REMOTELY DURING THE SAME MEETING. IT'S ALSO WE DO HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS ON OUR TECHNOLOGY DURING BOARD MEETINGS. FOR EXAMPLE, A WHEN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, THAT REMOTE PARTICIPANT COULD NOT BE IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: THAT'S IMPORTANT INFORMATION. I'VE FORGOTTEN THAT.
JETT HANNA: I THINK THERE SHOULD BE A TECHNOLOGICAL FIX FOR THAT, THOUGH, THAT THERE, THERE WOULD BE SOMEHOW YOU COULD, SENSE, SIMPLY SHUT DOWN THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO THE TO THE ZOOM.
LEANA MANN: WELL, WE DON'T USE ZOOM. WE USE A VERY SPECIFIC CONFERENCING SYSTEM THAT'S DEVELOPED FOR BOARDS, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY. WE COULD END THE MEETING COMPLETELY, BUT THEN IT ALMOST TREATS IT AS TWO SEPARATE MEETINGS WHEN YOU COME BACK.
JETT HANNA: I THERE'S THAT JUST THINK THERE'S SOME WAY TO DO IT.
DICK LAVINE: I THINK THAT AT THE CITY RETIREMENT SYSTEM, WE DO HAVE EXECUTIVE SESSIONS TO DISCUSS INVESTMENTS OR WHATEVER, AND I'M JUST NOT SURE WHETHER THAT CUTS OUT THE REMOTE PARTICIPANTS.
LEANA MANN: CUTS THEM OUT. OUR CURRENT TECHNOLOGY WOULDN'T ALLOW THE REMOTE PARTICIPANT TO BE IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
DICK LAVINE: AND ONE OTHER POINT ABOUT THE COURSE RULES, WHICH IS THE PRESIDING OFFICER HAS TO BE THERE IN PERSON.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: WELL, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM. SO WHATEVER WE WRITE, IF WE WERE GOING TO AMEND IT, WOULD BE, WOULD BE WITH A QUORUM IN IN PERSON, ATTENDANCE, REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WOULD BE PERMITTED. AND THEN THERE'D HAVE TO BE A STATEMENT ABOUT EXCEPT FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION PARTICIPATION. ASSUME THAT WILL BE THE NATURE OF THAT. I WAS JUST ASKING THE CHAIR ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD HELP, BECAUSE WE NEED TO PROBABLY VOTE. MAYBE AT THE END OF ALL CHANGES, WE HAD ONE CHANGE HAVING TO DO WITH APPOINTING COMMITTEES FROM OTHER MEETING TIMES, AND THEN WE CAN GO BACK TO THIS AND TAKE A VOTE ON THIS AMENDMENT AND SEE HOW IT GOES.
BUT WHATEVER WE DECIDE TO VOTE ON, IT HAS TO BE WITH THE CAVEAT, WITH AN IN PERSON FORUM AND WITH NO PARTICIPATION IN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND REMOTELY.
SHENGHAO WANG: FOR CONTEXT, DICK ATTENDED REMOTELY OUR ARB COMMITTEE HEARING ON FRIDAY, AND HE ATTENDED REMOTELY BECAUSE HE WAS OUT OF THE STATE, AND I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE DICK REMOTELY THAN TO NOT HAVE HIM AT ALL. I WOULD MAYBE PROPOSE THAT WE SAY SOMETHING ABOUT REMOTE PARTICIPATION WILL BE ALLOWED, AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD CHAIR TO KIND OF ADDRESS THOSE KINDS OF ISSUES. AND YOU KNOW, IF YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE IN MAINE OR WHATEVER, FOR SOME REASON, AND YOU KNOW THE ONLY IT'S REMOTE OR NOT AT ALL, I THINK THAT'S A SITUATION IN WHICH THE BOARD CHAIR MIGHT PERMIT IT, WHEREAS, IF YOU KNOW THEY REALLY WANT TO CATCH THE SEASON PREMIER OF, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER DAYTIME SOAP OPERA THAT MIGHT NOT BE ALLOWED.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: PERMISSIBLE. RIGHT. OKAY, AT THE END OF ALL THIS, AND I WILL TAKE MOTIONS ON THE. AND THAT'S A THAT'S A GOOD
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COMPROMISE. THANK YOU. WE JUST HAVE A FEW MORE THINGS TO GO TRAVEL AND TRAINING IS THE NEXT SECTION NUMBER 18. IT'S TO MAKE CLEAR THAT YOU'RE NOT EXPECTED TO TRAVEL TO CONFERENCES AND OTHER THINGS. IF YOU DO, THE BOARD BASICALLY HAS TO AUTHORIZE YOU TO DO SO, AND THEN THE BOARD, THE DISTRICT STAFF, WILL PAY DIRECTLY YOUR REGISTRATION FEES AND YOUR LODGING. THAT WILL BE WHAT YOU'RE ENTITLED TO. THERE WON'T BE REALLY A PER DIEM OR EXPENSE ACCOUNT THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT YOU, THAT YOU PURCHASE AT THE CONFERENCE, WON'T BE PAID. IT'S BASICALLY REGISTRATION AND LODGING THAT WILL BE PAID DIRECTLY BY THE DISTRICT, AND THEN, REGARDING A COMMUNICATION WITH LEGAL COUNSEL, IT REQUIRES THAT BOARD, INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT TO INDIVIDUAL BOARD MEMBERS, SHALL CHANNEL LEGAL INQUIRIES THROUGH THE CHIEF APPRAISER, CHIEF APPRAISER, AS APPROPRIATE WHEN ADVICE OR INFORMATION FROM THE DISTRICT'S INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL LEGAL COUNSEL WAS SOUGHT. SO IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT LITIGATION, OR IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT A LEGAL MATTER, YOU THINK THAT THE OUR LEGAL COUNSEL NEEDS TO TO ADDRESS WITH US, ASK THE CHIEF APPRAISER TO DO THAT WITH THAT SAID, IF WE ARE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION DISCUSSING THINGS COLLECTIVELY WITH OUR LEGAL COUNSEL. YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO SAY SOMETHING TO THE LEGAL TO THE YOUR LAWYER AT THAT POINT IN TIME DURING EXECUTIVE SESSION.BUT WE DON'T WANT INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS TALKING INDIVIDUALLY WITH THE COUNCIL. WE NEED TO HAVE A UNIFIED VOICE, WHETHER IT'S TO OUR IN HOUSE COUNSEL OR EXTERNAL COUNSEL. THAT'S WHY THAT'S PUT IN THERE, IN THAT MANNER. ALL RIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, THEN, IF YOU GO ON THE REST OF THIS IS OUR ATTACHMENTS. THEN THE KIND OF ETHICS POLICY STARTS ON PAGE 172 AND BASICALLY REITERATES THE PROVISIONS THAT WE JUST DISCUSSED IN THE BOARD POLICIES AND THEN UNDER RELEVANT ETHICAL ETHICS CONSIDERATIONS, IT JUST MENTIONS THE DIFFERENT PROVISIONS OF DIFFERENT TAX CODES OF THE TEXAS LAWS THAT DEAL WITH THINGS THAT ETHICAL MATTERS UNDER GIFTS AND HONORARIUM, IT MAKES IT WE ALWAYS HAVE HAD A POLICY ABOUT NOT SOLICITING SOLICITING GIFTS, AS YOU WILL SEE, BUT WE NEVER REALLY ADDRESSED HONORARIUM, BECAUSE NOBODY EVER WANTED US TO SPEAK ANYWHERE. I BUT SOMEBODY MAY REALLY WANT DANIEL OR DICK OR JETT OR JOHN OR BLANCA TO SPEAK, AND SO YOU CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW COULD DO, BUT YOU CAN'T ACCEPT AN HONORARIA OR HONORARIUM OTHER THAN THE SECTION AS IT IS WRITTEN NOT IN CONSIDERATION FOR SERVICES THAT A DIRECTOR WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN REQUESTED TO PROVIDE, BUT FOR HIS OR HER POSITION, WHICH IS LANGUAGE IN THE PENAL CODE ALREADY, THEN WE'VE DISCUSSED ALREADY AT JETT'S REQUEST. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SO WHAT THE PROCEDURE FOR DEALING WITH VIOLATIONS SOMEBODY HAS TO FILE A COMPLAINT. JETT, I THINK THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING. I MEAN, I CAN'T JUST SIT AROUND LIKE A WATCHDOG AND SAY, YOU DID THIS AND YOU DID THAT. I MEAN, SOMEONE HAS TO FILE A LEGAL COMP, I MEAN, OFFICIAL COMPLAINT AND FOR ACTION TO BE TAKEN. AND THEN WE HAVE A PROCEDURE FOR HOW TO DEAL WITH IT, SO IT'S NOT JUST UNEVENLY ADMINISTERED. OKAY, SO I THINK WE HAVE TWO POTENTIAL AMENDMENTS ON THE TABLE FOR THIS BEFORE WE SHOULD LET ME LOOK AT MY LITTLE CHEAT SHEET. WE HAVE TO TAKE ACTION MOTIONS TO TO REVISE THESE PROPOSED POLICIES. AND I THINK BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE HAVE TWO AMENDMENTS ON THE TABLE THAT WE NEED TO TO DISCUSS. THE FIRST ONE, DICK, YOU WANT TO KIND OF PHRASE IT A LITTLE BIT OF FOR DUSTY'S BENEFIT, OR KAREN'S BENEFIT, HAVING TO DO WITH COMMITTEES? BUT AT DIFFERENT TIMES, SHENGHAO WANG: PAGE 140 OF THE PACKET, DICK LAVINE: 140 SHENGHAO WANG: OF THE PACKET, YEAH, DICK LAVINE: IT SPECIFIES ON PAGE 140 ABOUT COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS SHALL BE ANNOUNCED IN THE FIRST MEETING AFTER THE ELECTION OF THE BOARD CHAIR, AND I THINK WE NEED TO LEAVE THAT OPEN FIRST CHANGES DURING THE COURSE OF THE YEAR THAT MIGHT REQUIRE COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT OR CREATION OF A NEW COMMITTEE FOR THAT, I WOULD SUGGEST MAYBE THE SIMPLE FIX OF. AFTER THE FIRST MEETING,
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PUTTING IN A CLAUSE, OR AS DETERMINED BY THE BOARD, AT THE BOARD'S DISCRETION, SO ALLOWING YOU ALL TO MODIFY IT BEING SOMETHING IN ADDITION TO THE FIRST MEETING.LEANA MANN: SO THE SECOND BULLET POINT ON PAGE 16 OF THE POLICY 140 OF THE PACKET WOULD BE A COMMITTEE MEMBER SHALL BE APPOINTED AND SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD CHAIRPERSON FOR ONE CALENDAR YEAR, CONSISTENT WITH THE ANNUAL PLANNING CALENDAR, COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS WILL BE ANNOUNCED IN THE FIRST MEETING OR AT THE DETERMINATION OF THE BOARD CHAIR AFTER THE ELECTION OF THE BOARD CHAIRPERSON, DICK LAVINE: OKAY, AT THE DISCRETION. AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. ORIGINALLY IT SAID, OF THE BOARD, I'M SORRY DUSTIN BANKS: IF YOU WANT ME THE CHAIR ABSOLUTELY.
LEANA MANN: IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? DICK LAVINE: YEAH, LEAVE IT WITH THE CHAIR. CHAIRS, MAKING YOUR BOARD CHAIR.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: PERSON, OKAY, DICK, ARE YOU MAKING THAT MOTION? DICK LAVINE: YES, I AM.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT AMENDMENT TO THE AS JUST READ BLANCA, AND THERE'S A SECOND BY BLANCA. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, THOSE OPPOSED, HEARING NO OPPOSITION. THAT CHANGES MADE.
THE SECOND AMENDMENT DEALS WITH REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY BOARD MEMBERS. DANIEL, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ON THAT? SHENGHAO WANG: YES.
SO UNDER ON PAGE 141 OF THE PACKET, WHICH IS PAGE 17 OF THE BOARD POLICIES DOCUMENT, ITEM NUMBER 17 AS WELL, THE SECOND TO LAST SENTENCE CURRENTLY READS, REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY BOARD MEMBERS WILL NOT BE ALLOWED. I MOVE TO AMEND THAT, TO REPLACE THAT SENTENCE TO SAY THAT REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY BOARD MEMBERS MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD CHAIR.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: ALL RIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? JETT HANNAH HAS SECONDED THE MOTION. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DICK LAVINE: QUESTION, QUESTION WHETHER WE SHOULD ADD A FEW MORE QUALIFICATIONS, THAT THE PRESIDING OFFICER WOULD BE PRESENT IN PERSON, A QUORUM BE PRESENT IN PERSON, AND THAT YOU MUST BE LIVE ON SCREEN AT ALL TIMES, OR BE SHOWN ABSENT FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME.
DUSTIN BANKS: THAT'S ALREADY COVERED UNDER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. IT COVERS ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO IF YOU WERE GOING TO ALLOW FOR REMOTE TO DO AN ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION WOULD BE AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, EVERYTHING IS SPOKEN FOR IN THE OPEN MEETINGS. ACT, DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: JOHN, DID YOU HAVE DISCUSSION? JOHN HAVENSTRITE: OPERATIONALLY? HOW WOULD, HOW WOULD THAT WORK? SO IF WE ALLOW REMOTE PARTICIPATION, HOW WOULD WE? WHERE WOULD WE? HOW WOULD WE VIEW OUR REMOTE PARTICIPANT? THEY WOULD THEY WOULD BE ON SCREEN? LEANA MANN: IT ADDS A SMALL BOX AT THE BOTTOM OF BOTH SCREENS THAT YOU WOULD SEE THE REMOTE PARTICIPANT. YES, DUSTIN BANKS: IT'S REQUIRED THAT YOU HAVE TO SEE THEIR FACE, JUST AS YOU WOULD SEE YOUR FACE HERE PUBLICLY RIGHT NOW.
JOHN HAVENSTRITE: AND THE TECH PERMITS THAT CURRENTLY LEANA MANN: IT DOES DURING THE OPEN PORTION OF THE MEETING, JOHN HAVENSTRITE: DURING THE OPEN PORTION OF THE MEETING, AND HAVING NOT BEEN HERE FOR CLOSED, JUST CLOSED IN THE SAME SPACE AS OPEN, JUST WITH A JUST CHANGE IN PARTICIPATION.
LEANA MANN: SO THE CLOSED SESSION IS WHERE THE REMOTE PARTICIPATION, OUR TECH DOESN'T ALLOW SO WHEN WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION TO SPEAK WITH OUR ATTORNEYS, THAT'S WHEN THE REMOTE PARTICIPANT WOULDN'T BE IN THERE.
JOHN HAVENSTRITE: OKAY. SO MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT REMOTE PARTICIPATION WASN'T PERMITTED FOR UNTIL COVID, AND THEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN COVID ROLLED THROUGH. I THINK MAYBE IT WAS THE GOVERNOR, YOU KNOW, CHANGE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THESE THINGS FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES. ARE WE STILL OPERATING UNDER THOSE OLD COVID RULES? DUSTIN BANKS: I THINK JUST CORRECT THAT. I THINK ACTUALLY REMOTE PARTICIPATION WAS ALLOWED PRE COVID FOR INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS, BUT NOT A CORN OF THE ENTIRE MEETING. AND THEN COVID OCCURRED, AND THE GOVERNOR MADE EXCEPTIONS TO ALLOW A FULL ENTIRE QUORUM TO BE REMOTE. BUT I RECALL, BACK BEFORE COVID THAT I PART OF SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD MEETINGS, I WITNESSED SEVERAL REMOTE PROCEEDINGS WHERE MEMBERS PARTICIPATED REMOTELY DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: OUR CHAIRPERSON, WHO'S HAVING TROUBLE TALKING, JUST MENTIONED TO ME THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME CONCERN ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGICAL CAPABILITY OF THE REMOTE PARTICIPANT. AND SO I'M WONDERING IF THIS SHOULD BE AMENDED IN SOME WAY TO SAY, SO LONG AS THE TECHNOLOGY EMPLOYED BY THE REMOTE PARTICIPANT IS COMPATIBLE WITH DISTRICT EQUIPMENT, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WORD, BUT IS THERE, IS THERE ANY NEED? JETT.
JETT HANNA: YEAH, MAYBE IF WE JUST ADDED, IN ACCORDANCE WITH
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THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THAT WOULD KIND OF PUT EVERYBODY ON NOTICE, BECAUSE THEN, IF THEY'RE NOT SHOWING ON THE SCREEN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART OF THE TECH PROBLEM, IF THEY'RE NOT EVEN GETTING VOICE THROUGH, YEAH, SO DUSTIN BANKS: THAT'S CORRECT, IF THEY BECOME ANY TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT START OCCURRING DURING THAT PUBLIC MEETING, THEN THAT PERSON BECOMES A NON PARTICIPATORY MEMBER AND IS BASICALLY ABSENT.SO THERE'S, IT'S PRETTY STRINGENT REQUIREMENTS, AND KNOW THE MEETINGS ACT. THINK IT SPEAKS TO BEING VISIBLE, BEING HEARD, ABILITY TO RECEIVE COMMUNICATION, BEING PRESENT.
IT'S BASICALLY, IS LIKE YOU'RE PHYSICALLY HERE, AND IF THOSE THINGS DON'T OCCUR, THEN YOU'RE NOT ACTUALLY PARTICIPATING MEMBER AT THAT, AT ANY OF THOSE MOMENTS. BUT THAT IS, THAT IS THE DIFFICULTY, BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE TO ACTIVELY MONITOR THAT SITUATION AND KNOW WHEN THAT PERSON IF THEY'RE HAVING AUDIO ISSUES AND THEY'RE NOT PARTICIPATING, AND THEN MOVING THEM OUT INTO A PARTICIPATING MEMBER, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THE DIFFICULTY.
NICOLE CONLEY: SORRY, I WANTED TO DO A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ABOUT THAT. SO ALLOWING, RE ALLOWING THEM TO PARTICIPATE AS WELL AS VOTE, RIGHT? AND I'M ASSUMING UNDER OPEN MEETINGS THAT THE CAMERA HAS TO BE ON DURING THAT VOTING TIME, BUT I HAVE SEEN INSTANCES WHERE IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT FOR STAFF TO ASCERTAIN THAT, AND PEOPLE GET FRUSTRATED ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO VOTE, AND SO I DO IT IS SORT OF WE ARE SORT OF TREADING A THIN LINE IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO SORT OF EFFECTUATE THIS FROM A PRACTICAL IMPLEMENTATION WAS MY COMMENT.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: DANIEL, DID YOU WANT TO REPHRASE YOUR AMENDMENT AFTER COMMENT YOU'VE HEARD OR, SHENGHAO WANG: WELL, I WELL, NO, ACTUALLY, I THINK THAT THE BOARD CHAIR, BECAUSE THEY HAVE DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY CAN ATTACH WHATEVER CONDITIONS THEY SO CHOOSE. AND AT LEAST FOR THE OPEN PART, YOU KNOW, WE SAW DICK CRYSTAL CLEAR, AND HE DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY PROBLEMS DURING OUR DURING OUR ARB COMMITTEE HEARING. SO AT LEAST FOR THE OPEN PORTION OF THE MEETING, I YOU KNOW, THE TECHNOLOGY WORK FLAWLESSLY, AND DICK WAS ABLE TO JUMP IN WITH QUESTIONS AND SO FORTH.
JAMES VALADEZ: SO I'M WONDERING IF THE CHIEF APPRAISER CAN I'M WONDERING IF THE CHIEF APPRAISER CAN SPEAK TO THE LIMITATIONS OF OUR TECHNOLOGY AS IT PERTAINS TO EXECUTIVE SESSION, AND IF WE WOULD NEED ANY ADDITIONAL PRODUCTS AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
LEANA MANN: SO WE WOULD HAVE TO GET A SECOND REMOTE CAPABILITY WHERE THE MEMBER COULD JOIN, LIKE THROUGH A ZOOM MEETING FOR THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. I HAVE SOME CONCERNS, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE REMOTE IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION, HOW DO THE BOARD MEMBERS KNOW THAT THAT PERSON DOESN'T HAVE OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THAT ARE HEARING THAT PRIVILEGED INFORMATION, THAT WOULD BE MY MAIN CONCERN THERE.
DUSTIN BANKS: AND IF I MAY, IT WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO SHARE PRIVILEGED INFORMATION, BECAUSE THEN I HAVE TO DIGITALLY DISPLAY OR GIVE THEM THE PACKET WITH THAT CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION. SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION AS WELL. AND THEN LAST I HAVEN'T HAD A BECAUSE WE'RE KIND OF IN SPUR MOMENT MAKING THIS CHANGE. I HAVEN'T HAD AN IN DEPTH DIVE OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT REMOTE MEMBER CAN'T PARTICIPATE IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, BUT I'M NOT ABSOLUTELY SURE. I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
SHENGHAO WANG: I AM COMFORTABLE ADMITTING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, TO LIMIT THIS, THE OPEN PORTION. AND YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE'S OUT OF TOWN AND JUST CAN'T MAKE IT IN PERSON, THEN THEY WEREN'T GOING TO MAKE BE ABLE TO MAKE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION ANYWAYS.
AND JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, JUST IT IS WHAT IT IS.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: SO DO YOU WANT TO CHANGE THAT SENTENCE TO SAY REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY BOARD MEMBERS IN REGULAR SESSION MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIRPERSON. YES, OKAY, THAT'S THE MOTION. REMOTE PARTICIPATION BY BOARD MEMBERS DURING THE REGULAR SESSION MAY BE ALLOWED AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD CHAIR PERSON, ALL RIGHT, IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND BY MR. LAVINE, THIS MAY BE A SPLIT VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND, PLEASE. ALL THOSE OPPOSED, RAISE YOUR HAND.
OKAY. WE HAVE A FIVE TO THREE DECISION, I BELIEVE, OPPOSING THE MOTION SO IT IS, IS NOT GOING TO BE INCLUDED. ALL RIGHT, I THINK THOSE WERE THE TWO AMENDMENTS WE DISCUSSED. I THINK THE NEXT STEP IS TO VOTE ON, OR TO HAVE A MOTION ON APPROVING THE POLICIES AND. IN THE CODE OF ETHICS TOGETHER IS OKAY TO DO IT
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IN ONE VOTE, MISS CHIEF APPRAISER.LEANA MANN: YES. AND ON PAGE 123, THERE'S A DRAFT RESOLUTION THAT INCLUDES BOTH THE POLICY IS EXHIBIT A AND THE CODE OF ETHICS AS EXHIBIT B.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE WERE ACTUALLY VOTING ON THIS RESOLUTION. NUMBER 20250128, DASH, SEVEN. SEE, I THINK THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE THAT IT IS FOREVER IN THIS HAS TO BE AS AMENDED, BECAUSE WE HAVE AMENDED THE POLICIES IN TWO PLACES. DO I HEAR A MOTION AMENDED ONE PLACE? RIGHT? I'M SORRY IN ONE PLACE. I APOLOGIZE IN ONE PLACE. OKAY? DO I HEAR A MOTION TO TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION FOUND ON PAGE 123.
NICOLE CONLEY: I MOVE APPROVAL, OKAY, TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION.
20250128, 7C, AS AMENDED, IS THERE A SECOND? THERE'S A SECOND? BLANCA, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE, ALL THOSE AGAINST WONDERS. ONE VOTE, NO, BUT MR. HANNAH, NO, JETT HANNA: I JUST WANT TO SAY I THINK IT IS TO CUT OUT PARTICIPATION POTENTIALLY, OF PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN ELECTED WHEN IT CAN CLEARLY BE DONE, IT'S NOT A GOOD LOOK, AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S GOOD FOR THE DISTRICT. THANK YOU.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 7D
[d. Discussion on Report from Appraisal Review Board Committee]
DISCUSSION ON REPORT FROM THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD COMMITTEE. MR. WANG, WILL YOU PROVIDE THE REPORT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE IN YOUR MEETING RECENTLY? SHENGHAO WANG: YES.SO WE WERE HAD INTENDED ORIGINALLY TO HAVE A SET OF INTERVIEWS ON JANUARY 24 TUESDAY, SORRY, NO, THE TUESDAY THE 22ND I BELIEVE 21ST THAT WAS THE SNOW DAY THAT EVERYTHING GOT CANCELED. WE RESCHEDULED WHAT WE COULD TO FRIDAY, JANUARY 24 TO LAST FRIDAY. WE CONDUCTED A NUMBER OF INTERVIEWS, AND SAY, FOR ONE, NO SHOW. WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE REST BE A POINTED TO THE ARB, WHICH WE'LL ADDRESS IN A LATER MOTION. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CANDIDATES WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT FRIDAY TIME, AND AFTER HAVING SPOKEN WITH MR. MCBEE, CHAIR THE ARB, OUR GOAL AS THE ARB SUBCOMMITTEE IS TO SCHEDULE ONE LAST DAY OF INTERVIEWS AS LATE AS POSSIBLE BEFORE THE MARCH BOARD MEETING, SO THAT ALL OF THOSE INTERVIEWEES THAT WE SO THAT WE RECOMMEND FOR APPOINTMENT CAN BE APPOINTED AT THAT MARCH BOARD MEETING. AND WE THINK THAT THAT WE WERE CURRENTLY AT AROUND 100 BALLPARK ARB MEMBERS, AND THEN I THINK CORRECT MISS THOMPSON, SORRY. HOW MANY ARE REMAIN TO BE SCHEDULED FOR INTERVIEWS? THERE ARE A COUPLE THAT WE COULDN'T INTERVIEW ON FRIDAY, RIGHT? FIVE, BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: PENDING SCHEDULE, OKAY TO HAVE A NON RESPONSIVE AND THREE, SHENGHAO WANG: OKAY, SO WE'LL GET AT LEAST THREE MORE. AND THEN MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER ELSE SUBMITS THE APPLICATIONS BEFORE FOR THAT MARCH DATE. AND MR. MCBEE HAS INDICATED THAT HE THINKS THAT WOULD BE A HEALTHY CONTINGENT OF ARB MEMBERS. SO THAT'S THE PLAN. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GET TO THAT PORTION OF THE AGENDA, WILL RECOMMEND THE APPOINTMENT OF THE FOLKS THAT WE INTERVIEWED ON FRIDAY.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING. AND THANK YOU, DICK, FOR FOR REMOTING IN IF THAT'S A VERB FROM FROM CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION. MS. THOMPSON, I'M GLAD YOU'RE UP. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE DISCUSSION
[e. Discussion and Possible Action on Removal of Appraisal Review Board Members That Have Resigned]
POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE REMOVAL OF APPRAISAL REVIEW MEMBERS WHO HAVE RESIGNED.BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: SO WE DO HAVE THREE MEMBERS, SO 2025, APPOINTEE AND 2024 APPOINTEES THAT HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR RESIGNATION, AND SO I'M ASKING FOR YOUR ACCEPTANCE OF THEIR RESIGNATIONS TO REMOVE THEM FROM THE ROSTER OF THE ARB.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE SCREEN, IT'S, I BELIEVE THE NAMES ARE BOB NICHOLS, CHAUVIN KESSLER, AND ELLIOT RICHMOND. CORRECT? IS THERE A MOTION TO REMOVE THESE, THESE INDIVIDUALS FROM THE BPPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD. THERE'S A MOTION FROM MR. LAVINE. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND? FROM BLANCA, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED WITH NO OPPOSITION, THAT MOTION IS ACCEPTED. STAY UP THERE. MISS THOMPSON, 7F DISCUSSION. POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE
[f. Discussion and Possible Action on the Appointment of Appraisal Review Board Members for the Two-Year Term Beginning January 1, 2025 through December 31, 2026, Conditional on the Acceptable Results of a Criminal Background Check]
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APPOINTMENT OF APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD MEMBERS FOR THE TWO YEAR TERM, BUT GETTING JANUARY 1, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31 2026 I BELIEVE YOU'LL GIVE US AN UPDATE. MS THOMPSON, AND THEN MR. BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: YES, THERE ARE NINE MEMBERS HERE. ONE IS A REAPPOINTMENT TO HER THIRD TERM. AND THEN THERE ARE EIGHT NEW APPOINTMENTS AS AUXILIARY MEMBERS, SO YOU HAVE THEIR LIST OF NAMES, I BELIEVE, WITH YOUR RESOLUTION, AND THIS WILL BE PENDING THEIR COMPLETION OF A BACKGROUND CHECK.DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: ALL RIGHT, MR. WANG, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION ON THIS? SHENGHAO WANG: YES, I MOVE TO ADOPT BOARD RESOLUTION.
20250128, DASH, 7F, ON PAGE 193, OF THE BOARD PACKET. IS THERE A SECOND? DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: MR. LAVINE, SECONDS. THE MOTION TO TO APPROVE THIS RESOLUTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE. THOSE OPPOSED SEE NO OPPOSITION, THE RESOLUTION IS ADOPTED.
DICK LAVINE: LET ME JUST ADD WHICH I DID LAST TIME WE HAD SIMILAR ITEM. WHICH IS, I'M PRETTY IMPRESSED BY THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THE PEOPLE COMING THEIR INTEREST IN PUBLIC SERVICE. THEY REPRESENT MANY DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY, GEOGRAPHICALLY, IN OTHER WAYS. SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A REALLY EXCELLENT ARB, AND I WISH I COULD SERVE ON IT.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: WELL, IT'S HARD TO DO BOTH, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR THE REVIEW AND THE TIME THAT Y'ALL HAVE TAKEN IN REVIEWING THESE CANDIDATES. IT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE TO HAVE NO INVOLVED. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS
[g. Discussion and Possible Action on Taxpayer Liaison Report]
DISCUSSION AND POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE TAXPAYER LIAISON OFFICERS REPORT. MISS THOMPSON.BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: SO IN KEEPING WITH THE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE ARB, I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU TURN IN YOUR MEETING MATERIALS TO PAGE 225 THAT'S A SUMMARY THAT MS MARTINEZ HELPS ME KEEP OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED. WE HAVE RECEIVED 76 APPLICATIONS AS OF LAST WEEK. 20% OF THOSE APPLICANTS ARE INELIGIBLE. THEY EITHER DO NOT LIVE IN TRAVIS COUNTY, HAVE NOT RESIDED HERE FOR TWO YEARS. THEY HAVE DELINQUENT TAXES. THEY HAVE WITHDRAWN THEIR APPLICATIONS BECAUSE THEY FOUND A FULL TIME JOB OR FOR HEALTH REASONS. SO WE'RE LOSING ABOUT 20% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY APPLY BEFORE WE EVER GET THEM TO AN INTERVIEW. SO ON DECEMBER 9, YOU HAD APPROVED IT KIND OF MOVED TO THE FAR RIGHT, 47 YOU'VE NOW APPROVED NINE MORE, MAKING A TOTAL OF 56 ARB MEMBERS OF THE 75 THAT WE NEEDED. SO WE'RE STILL LOOKING FOR 19. I DO HAVE THOSE FIVE PENDING APPLICATIONS, WHICH WE WILL GET SCHEDULED FOR THE NEXT TIME. BUT WE ARE, AS HAS BEEN MENTIONED, ABOUT AT 100 MEMBERS. SO AS WE GO FORWARD, WE'LL CONTINUE TO TRY AND ADD TO THAT. YOU SEE THAT OUR REFERRAL SOURCE FRIENDS ARE THE NUMBER ONE REFERRAL AT THIS POINT. SO MR. MCBEE IS GOING TO CANVAS THE ARB AND ASK THEM IF THEY HAVE FRIENDS AND YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING. THEY ARE ABLE TO EXPRESS TO THEIR OWN COMMUNITY HOW REWARDING THE EXPERIENCE IS, SO WE'RE HOPING TO USE THEM AS RECRUITERS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, KUT IS OUR SECOND SOURCE THAT WE GET MOST OF OUR CANDIDATES FROM.
SO NOW I'LL HAVE YOU FLIP BACK TO PAGE 199, AND THAT STARTS THE GROUP OF REPORTS THAT I'M PROVIDING FOR YOU TODAY. I ACTUALLY HAVE THREE SETS OF REPORTS. THE FIRST ONE, OF COURSE, IS THE ACTIVITY REPORTS THAT YOU GET, AND THEY ARE SORTED IN ESCALATION ORDER. SO ABOUT A THIRD OF THIS REPORT.
THIS IS MY DECEMBER REPORT. IT'S ALMOST A PERFECT 30 DAYS AT THE END OF THE YEAR, AND IN DECEMBER, ABOUT A THIRD OF THIS REPORT WAS DEDICATED TO OR EFFORT IS DEDICATED TO EXEMPTIONS. IF YOU'RE HERE IN THIS BUILDING AND NOT WORKING EXEMPTIONS, IT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE HIDING FROM THE PUBLIC.
EVERYBODY IS WORKING EXEMPTIONS. SO SOME OF THEM ARE STEP ONE QUESTIONS, OR LEVEL ONE, WHICH IS JUST A GENERAL CUSTOMER SERVICE QUESTION, I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE, BECAUSE ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT, I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS THAT I CANNOT RESPOND TO WITHOUT AN EXEMPTION SPECIALIST ASSISTANCE, SO I'M TRYING TO TAKE FREE SOME OF THEIR. TIME SO THAT I CAN GET MY
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COMMUNITY'S RESPONSES DONE. THE NEXT REPORT THAT YOU HAVE IS MY YEAR END REPORT. IT DOES SHOW YOU 2024 OVER 2023 UP ABOUT MORE THAN 35% IN ACTIVITY FROM 2023 TO 2024, OF COURSE, WE ADDED A DEPUTY TLO DURING THE SUMMER TO BE PRESENT DURING THOSE BILINGUAL HEARINGS, BUT SHE WAS ALSO ON SITE FOR QUESTIONS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS MIGHT HAVE THAT EITHER AROSE OR THEY BROUGHT WITH THEM. IT WASN'T PART OF THEIR HEARING, SO SHE WAS DOING THAT CUSTOMER SERVICE WORK. BUT FOR A YEAR REVIEW, 32% OF THIS REPORT SHOWS THAT MY QUESTIONS ARE RELATED TO MARKET VALUE, WHERE PEOPLE JUST STILL DON'T AGREE, EITHER AFTER A HEARING OR AFTER THE PROTEST DEADLINE, THEY STILL JUST DO NOT AGREE THEIR OPINION OF THEIR MARKET VALUE IS DIFFERENT. SO I AM PROVIDING THEM EDUCATION, REFERRING THEM TO WEBINARS, THE VARIOUS SOURCES THAT I HAVE TO EDUCATE THEM ON. WHAT ARE THEIR NEXT STEPS IN THAT PROCESS? AND SOMETIMES IT IS JUST SIMPLY THAT 2025, IS YOUR NEXT OPPORTUNITY TO APPEAL YOUR VALUE. SO OF COURSE, EXEMPTIONS AND THEN FORMAL HEARING COMMUNICATIONS ARE NEXT.SO THE NEXT SET OF WELL, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE MAP BY ZIP CODE WE TALKED LAST TIME THAT WEST AUSTIN.
SHENGHAO WANG: I'M SORRY. YES, GOOD QUESTION. SO ON PAGE 205, THERE'S THAT PIE CHART. WHAT ARE BPP ISSUES? THE 5% OR BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: BUSINESS PERSONAL PROPERTY.
BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: SO LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT WEST AUSTIN HAS BECOME AN INCREASING COMMUNITY THAT EDUCATION MIGHT BE NEEDED FOR THEIR TO RESPOND TO THEIR INQUIRIES THERE. SO IT'S JUST THERE IS BASICALLY NO CHANGE FROM THIS, FROM WHAT YOU SAW LAST TIME. THE NEXT SET OF REPORTS IS ABOUT A TWO AND A HALF WEEK REPORT IN JANUARY. IT IS MY ACTIVITY THAT I HAVE DONE THE FIRST THREE WEEKS HERE. ABOUT 50% OF THIS REPORT IS STEP ONE. STEP TO ESCALATE OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE QUESTIONS, ALL EXEMPTIONS AGAIN, SO WE HAVE A FEW THAT ARE OF A HIGHER LEVEL, A TIER THREE, WHERE I'VE REFERRED THOSE ARE THE FIRST TWO LINES OF THIS REPORT TO MANAGEMENT, JUST FOR INFORMATION, THEIR COMPLAINTS ABOUT PERSONNEL AND THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN HANDLED HERE AS PROPERTY OWNERS. SO SEE, YOU SHOULD HAVE MY PIE CHART NEXT, WHICH SHOULD SHOW YOU I'M DOING THIS BY MEMORY. I GUESS THAT EXEMPTIONS IS AGAIN THE NUMBER ONE ACTIVITY LEVEL. AND OF COURSE, BECAUSE WE'RE JUST THREE WEEKS INTO THIS MONTH, I DID NOT PREPARE A ZIP CODE REPORT FOR YOU, THEN I AM REQUIRED AS THE TAXPAYER.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: MISS THOMPSON. I'M SORRY. QUESTION ON EXEMPTIONS, I ASSUME THEY'RE MOSTLY RESIDENTIAL HOMESTEAD. IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT BECAUSE WE HAVE THE AUDIT GOING, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK NEXT. DO YOU THINK YOU COULD BREAK DOWN THE REQUEST THAT AREA TO AUDIT QUESTIONS? IN OTHER WORDS, I PERCEIVE THIS LETTER. WHAT DOES IT MEAN? AND VERSUS, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER I QUALIFY MY HOMESTEAD, BECAUSE I JUST BOUGHT IT IN FEBRUARY OR SOMETHING. I MEAN BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: VERY LITTLE OR NEVER OF THE SECOND, ALWAYS, BECAUSE DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: THIS IS THE AUDIT SITUATION THAT IS PROMPTING ALL OF THE COMMUNICATION.
BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: AND IT CAN BE FROM YOU ASKING ME WHETHER WE HAVE RECEIVED YOUR PAPERWORK, OKAY TO BUT IT'S AUDIT DRIVEN. THAT'S WHAT THAT IS. THAT IS CORRECT.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: ALL RIGHT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, MR. HAVENSTRITE AND OTHERS WHO MAYBE DON'T KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE REQUIRED THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS TO DO HOMESTEAD RESIDENTS HOMESTEAD AUDITS FOR THE FIRST TIME. SO WE WILL AT OUR LAST MEETING, WE WENT THROUGH A PRETTY DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF HOW THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS GOING ABOUT SENDING LETTERS TO PEOPLE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT PROVIDED THEIR DRIVER'S LICENSE, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE PAST BECAUSE THEY HAD APPLIED IN 1980 FOR THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, THERE'S A PROCESS THAT. HAVE FOR AUDITING, AND IT'S CREATING QUITE A TURMOIL IN
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THE COMMUNITY, SO BE AWARE OF THAT. AND I WAS JUST INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT MOST OF THE COMMUNICATIONS YOU'RE HAVING AS A RESULT OF THAT AUDIT.BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: AND A LOT OF THEM ARE HEIRSHIP ISSUES, SO DEEDS, YEAH, THAT THEY HAVEN'T CHANGED, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH PROBATE. SO A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES, I HAVE TO WORK WITH AN EXEMPTION SPECIALIST AND WORK THROUGH WHAT THE PROPERTY OWNER NEEDS TO DO. SO IF I KNOW, I TRY TO GIVE THAT INFORMATION TO THE PROPERTY OWNER. A LOT OF TIMES, THOSE ARE THE MORE COMPLICATED ONES DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: THAT THEY NEED LEGAL COUNSEL TO HANDLE.
YEAH, BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: GENERALLY, I HAVE SAID THAT. WELL, THAT DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: GETS VERY COMPLICATED, SO, YEAH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: SO OUR FINAL REPORT AS TLO, I'M REQUIRED TO TURN OVER TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE VERBATIM COMMUNICATIONS THAT I'VE RECEIVED REGARDING FORMAL HEARING PROCESS. SO I'VE GIVEN YOU THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT THEY GIVE TO US, AND THEN YOU HAVE MY ANALYSIS. IF YOU LOOK BACK TO MY YEAR OVER YEAR, REPORT THOSE TWO NUMBERS DON'T MATCH, AND SO I WROTE, THEN REALIZED THAT I DIDN'T HAVE ANY VERBATIM COMMUNICATIONS, WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS TO GIVE TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE FROM THE DEPUTIES WORK. SHE HAD OVER 100 CONTACTS DURING THE SUMMERTIME. SO THESE 94 COMMUNICATIONS THAT I HAVE COVID WERE STRICTLY MINE, AND SO SHE HAD HER OWN SET OF REPORTS, WHICH I GAVE TO YOU AT THE TIME. BUT OF WHAT WAS REPORTED, THE THINGS THAT I REMOVED WERE COMMUNICATIONS THAT DEALT WITH PROTEST DENIALS, MISSED FORMAL HEARINGS, REQUESTS TO RESCHEDULE NEXT STEPS TO THE FORMAL HEARING, APPEAL PROCESS AND THE COST OF BINDING ARBITRATION. SO OF THE ONES THAT I TURNED IN, 35% WERE RELATED TO THE FORMAL HEARING PROCEDURES, 49% TO EFFICIENCY, AND 16% TO FAIRNESS. SO GENERALLY, FAIRNESS WAS NOT THE NUMBER ONE, WHICH I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE NUMBER ONE, BUT PEOPLE WERE COMMUNICATING WITH ME ABOUT THE PROCEDURES THAT THEY ARE BE FOLLOWED, AND I HAVE MODIFIED WHAT I TURN INTO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE, JUST SO THAT YOU HAVE A DESCRIPTION OF THE COMPLAINT AND THEN MY RESPONSE THAT YOU WEREN'T GIVEN JUST PAGES OF PAGES OF VERBATIM EMAILS. SO THERE ARE 55 AND SO THAT'S ABOUT 5% OF MY TOTAL ACTIVITY OF 900 PLUS COMMUNICATIONS LAST YEAR. THAT IS FAR LESS THAN I TURNED IN LAST YEAR. THE CHANGE IS SOMEWHAT WITHIN MYSELF. I REALIZE THAT YOU'RE NOT REALLY COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FORMAL HEARING PROCESS, YOU'RE STILL COMPLAINING ABOUT YOUR OPINION ABOUT THE MARKET VALUE. SO I HAVE BETTER CATEGORIZED WHY YOU ARE WRITING ME SO AND THAT'S ANY QUESTIONS. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: OKAY DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: AS FAR AS ARB PROCEDURES, THAT IS THE NATURE OF THE COMPLAINT. IS IT THE FIVE THE TIME LIMITATION THAT THEY HAVE, PRIMARILY? BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: TIME LIMITATIONS AND THE WAY THEY HAVE FELT ABOUT PRESENTING THEIR EVIDENCE THAT THEY AND THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THE ARB PLACED A HIGHER LEVEL OF VALUE IN THE DISTRICT'S PRESENTATION OF EVIDENCE. AND OF COURSE, SOME PROPERTY OWNERS ARE JUST NOT PREPARED TO SEE THE SOPHISTICATED DATA THAT THE APPRAISAL DISTRICT PRODUCES IN THEIR GRIDS, AND THEY ARE GIVEN THAT DATA BEFORE THEY COME TO THE HEARING. BUT I THINK OFTENTIMES THEY FAIL TO HAVE STUDIED THAT IN THE DETAIL THAT THEY PERHAPS NEED TO.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: MR. HANNAH, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY, IT IS DIFFICULT. BLANCA JUST COMMENTED THAT IT'S DIFFICULT FOR HOMEOWNERS TO UNDERSTAND THOSE GRIDS. IT'S MORE THAN DIFFICULT. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, I'VE DEALT WITH THEM FOR YEARS, AND I FIND THEM IMPOSSIBLE, SO I THINK THEY NEED TO BE MUCH SIMPLER, BUT THAT'S THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE
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ALTOGETHER.BETTY THOMPSON, TAXPAYER LIAISON: AND ONE OF THE NEWEST WEBINARS THAT WE ADDED WAS HOW TO READ YOUR FIELD CARD. SO WE'RE TRYING TO TEACH A PROPERTY OWNER HOW TO LOOK AT THAT EVIDENCE AND BE ABLE TO BE PREPARED IN THEIR HEARING.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT.
BLANCA ZAMORA GARCIA: AND I KNOW YOU GUYS TRY SO, BUT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO EVEN TRY TO GET THERE. BUT THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
IS THE BOARD'S TAXPAYER LIASION OFFICER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A REPORT FROM OUR APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD CHAIRMAN, MR. MCBEE.
[h. Discussion and Possible Action on Appraisal Review Board Chairman Report]
BARRY MCBEE: THANK YOU MISS CARTWRIGHT, MEMBERS THE BOARD.LET ME FIRST BEGIN BY NOW IN AN OFFICIAL CAPACITY, BEING ABLE TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE. I'LL EXTEND THAT ON BEHALF ALSO MEL BROOKS AND BYRON GIFFORD, WHO ARE OUR SECRETARY AND ASSISTANT SECRETARY. IT IS AN HONOR TO STEP FROM OUR ROLE AS PANEL MEMBERS INTO THIS JOB, AND WE ENDEAVOR HAVE, AS WE HAVE IN OUR FIRST 28 DAYS, TO DO OUR BEST. AND IT'S BEEN IT'S QUITE A LEARNING CURVE ALREADY. I REALIZE YOU DO HAVE A NUMBER OF MATTERS ON YOUR AGENDA. SO I WILL BE BRIEF MY WRITTEN REPORT, SHORT WRITTEN REPORT, YOU CAN FIND AT PAGE 231, OF THE AGENDA.
FIRST, I WILL THANK THE ARB SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE NEW MEMBERS AGAIN WE'VE RECEIVED TODAY AND THOSE THAT HAVE ALREADY JOINED US ALONG THE WAY. WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR ORIENTATION AND MEETING THOSE NEW MEMBERS IN PERSON ON FEBRUARY 12, LOOKING FORWARD AS WELL TO OUR FIRST HEARINGS OF 2025 THESE WOULD BE CORRECTION HEARINGS, FOR THE MOST PART. IT WILL BE HELD IN LATE FEBRUARY. AS NOTED IN MY OFFICIAL IS MY WRITTEN REPORT.
OUR GREAT EMPHASIS IS ON ENHANCING THE TRAINING IN MY INTERVIEW WITH THE PANEL, I THINK, AND THEY HEARD THAT PROBABLY FROM ALL OF THE CANDIDATES FOR CHAIR AND SECRETARY, THAT WAS THE ONE PLACE I THINK WE CAN CONTINUE TO IMPROVE. FOR EXAMPLE, WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS A LITTLE BIT MORE ON COMMERCIAL TRAINING. WE'VE GOT A COMMERCIAL APPRAISER COMING IN IN MAY TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH THOSE WHO WISH TO PARTICIPATE IN COMMERCIAL HEARINGS, SO WE DO HAVE A BETTER GRASP OF THE WIDE BREADTH OF THE KINDS OF PROPERTIES, THE DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES THAT ARE USED THAT WILL INCLUDE BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY, WHICH WE ARE INCREASINGLY SEEING AS A MATTER OF HEARING REQUESTS AND QUESTIONS BEFORE US. WE BENEFITED UNDER MR. PHIFER. HE HAD THE LAST TWO SEASONS, BROUGHT IN THE JUDICIAL OFFICIAL. IT WAS INTERESTING TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S A JUDGE COME AND TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT IT IS TO BE AT LEAST A QUASI JUDGE. WE'RE NOT GOING TO INVITE BACK.
THIS WAS A DISTRICT COURT JUDGE DOWN IN HAYS COUNTY. WE ARE INSTEAD GOING TO WE HAVE FOUND A FORMER STATE ADMINISTRATIVE LAW JUDGE, WHICH SEEMS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A COMPARABLE ROLE THAT WE PLAY WITH THEM, WHO ALSO HAPPENS TO BE A FORMER MEMBER OF THE ARB, AND SO HE'S GOING TO COME IN AND I THINK, EARLY MAY, AND KIND OF SPEND A DAY JUST TALKING ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITIES WE HAVE AS A JUDGE AND HOW ONE CONDUCTS THEMSELVES AS A MEMBER OF A JUDICIAL PANEL, PARTICULARLY WITH MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. SO WITH THAT, I THINK THAT'LL BE VERY BENEFICIAL AS WELL. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A NUMBER OF REFRESHER SESSIONS FOR RETURNING MEMBERS ON A VARIETY OF TOPICS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE WELL PREPARED WHEN WE START THE SEASON IN JUNE. FOR US THREE IN THE OFFICE ON A DAILY BASIS, WE ARE JUST DEALING WITH THE RAFT OF EMAIL REQUESTS FOR HEARINGS AND PROTESTS AND QUESTIONS AND COMPLAINTS THAT COME IN EACH DAY. INTERESTINGLY, MR. WANG, A NUMBER OF THOSE RELATE TO BUSINESS, PERSONAL PROPERTY, OFTENTIMES A SITUATION WHERE SOMEONE SAYS, YOU KNOW, I SOLD MY BUSINESS A COUPLE YEARS AGO AND I'M STILL RECEIVING A TAX BILL. WE WILL WORK CLOSELY WITH THE DISTRICT TO RESOLVE THOSE MATTERS WE ARE ALSO RECEIVING, AND I HAVE NO BASE FOR COMPARISON NOT HAVING BEEN IN THE OFFICE LAST JANUARY, BUT I THINK JUST SIMPLY A NUMBER OF REQUESTS FOR CONSIDERATION, NOT BECAUSE EVALUATIONS HAVE CHANGED, BUT BECAUSE TAX BILLS HAVE GONE UP, NOT BECAUSE AND SOME OF THAT IS TAX INCREASES FROM TAXING JURISDICTION. SOME OF THAT ARE NEW TAXES THAT HAVE BEEN IMPOSED, WHETHER THAT LEADS TO MORE PROTESTS BEING FILED OVER THE COURSE OF THE SPRING, WE WILL SEE COLLECTIVELY, IF THAT, IF THERE'S A SORT OF A FALLOUT FROM THOSE DECISIONS THAT WE AS VOTERS MADE. IN FACT, BACK IN NOVEMBER, I'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH A NUMBER OF MY COLLEAGUES, MORE RETURNING COLLEAGUES, AND A NUMBER OF ISSUES ABOUT SORT OF WORKING CONDITIONS AND PROCESSES. MS. MANN AND I ARE WORKING ON THOSE AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE. I'VE BEGUN TO MEET WITH AT LEAST THE MAJOR TAX AGENTS, MORE AS IN AS AN INTRODUCTORY MEETING, JUST TO SORT OF INTRODUCE MYSELF TO THEM. WE'LL COME BACK AND COME BACK TO THEM AND TALK TO THEM LATER IN THE SPRING ABOUT THE SCHEDULING DIRECTIVE THAT IS ISSUED IN IN MARCH OR APRIL, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE. AND SET OURSELVES UP FOR A SUCCESSFUL AND
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PRODUCTIVE AND EFFICIENT SEASON. I WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY LEGAL PRESCRIPTIONS, PERMITTING TO COME AND VISIT WITH EACH ONE OF YOU PERSONALLY AND ACCORDING TO YOUR SCHEDULES, OBVIOUSLY, JUST HAVE JUST TO SIT ON THAT SAME KIND OF INTRODUCTION, SO I CAN GET TO KNOW YOU A LITTLE BIT BETTER, AND YOU CAN TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF THE ARB, SO WE CAN HAVE YOUR INPUT AS WE GO INTO THE SEASON. MR. LAVINE, I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE MEMBERS OF TCAD BOARD COME AND SIT IN ON SOME HEARINGS. IF WE CAN ARRANGE THAT SOMETIME. I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I THINK, JUST TO HAVE EXPOSURE MUTUALLY TO WHAT WE DO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS AND WHAT YOU DO ON A DAY TO DAY BASIS AS WELL. SO WITH THAT, THAT'S MY DAY 28 REPORT. I'LL BE BACK IN MARCH. IT SOUNDS LIKE TO GIVE YOU MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THOROUGH AND INFORMED REPORT.I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: YEAH, WE APPRECIATE VERY MUCH YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND WE HOPE WE ALSO APPRECIATE THE INPUT THAT YOU GAVE TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER REGARDING THE BOARD POLICIES AS IT RELATES TO THE ARB, AND WE HOPE THAT YOU'LL CONTINUE BRINGING RECOMMENDATIONS TO US AS YOU SEE THEM DURING THE GREAT THANK YOU ALL THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM IS NUMBER SEVEN, I ON OUR AGENDA DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON
[i. Discussion and Possible Action on Annual Review and Adoption of Investment Policy]
THE ANNUAL REVIEW AND ADOPTION OF AN INVESTMENT POLICY. AND I BELIEVE THE CHIEF APPRAISER IS GOING TO MAKE THAT REPORT.LEANA MANN: SO GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 2256 WHICH IS THE PUBLIC AND PUBLIC FUNDS, IN FROM INVESTMENT ACT, IT REQUIRES THAT THE BOARD APPROVE THE INVESTMENT POLICY AND STRATEGIES OF THE DISTRICT EVERY YEAR. SO THIS IS OUR ANNUAL ADOPTION. THERE ARE VERY FEW CHANGES. WE DID SEND THIS OUT TO OUR INVESTMENT ADVISORY FIRM. THEY'VE REVIEWED AND PROVIDED A FEW SUGGESTIONS. AND AS A REMINDER, WE ALSO SUBMIT THIS TO THE GOVERNMENT TREASURER'S ORGANIZATION OF TEXAS FOR THEIR INVESTMENT POLICY CERTIFICATION, WHICH WE HAVE RECEIVED FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS. SO THE CHANGES, THERE WAS A SMALL CHANGE TO SECTION EIGHT, SUITABLE AND AUTHORIZED INVESTMENTS, AND IT JUST CHANGED THE LANGUAGE REGARDING NO LOAD MONEY MARKET MUTUAL FUNDS, AND THIS IS JUST IN THE EVENT THAT THERE'S ANY CHANGE TO THE PFIA THAT THE INVESTMENT POLICY POLICY WOULD NOT NEED TO BE AMENDED. IT WOULD COVER ANY CHANGE UNDER LAW.
THERE'S ALSO A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE GOVERNMENT TREASURER'S ORGANIZATION OF TEXAS, THROUGH OUR LAST REVIEW, THAT THIS BE UPDATED IN THE POLICY, THERE WAS AN UPDATE TO THE SUITABLE AND AUTHORIZED INVESTMENTS, AND JUST SOME LANGUAGE CHANGE AROUND THE AUTHORIZATION OF CDS. AND THIS WAS ALSO A RECOMMENDATION OF THE GOVERNMENT TREASURER'S ORGANIZATION OF TEXAS. AND THEN ON EXHIBIT A OF THE POLICY WE UPDATED TO REMOVE THE PAST CHIEF APPRAISER, MARYA CRIGLER AS AN AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL AND THEN EXHIBIT B, WE UPDATED THE BROKER DEALER LIST PROVIDED FROM OUR INVESTMENT ADVISORY FIRM.
NICOLE CONLEY: MADAM, CHAIRMAN, CHAIRWOMAN, I WILL BE ABSTAINING FROM THIS VOTE. WHILE THE POLICY CHANGES ARE COMPLETELY FINE, I WILL ABSTAIN FROM THIS VOTE. THANK YOU.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: PLEASE SHOW NICOLE CONLEY IS ABSTAINING FROM A MOTION OR APPROVAL ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, OR IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION REGARDING THESE POLICIES OR THE PROPOSED SHENGHAO WANG: I HAVE ONE. DANIEL WANG, JUST FOR MY CHANGES? EDIFICATION, WHAT IS A NO LOAD MONEY MARKET MUTUAL FUND? LEANA MANN: IT WOULD JUST BE A MONEY MARKET MUTUAL FUND, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE INVESTMENTS IN ANY OF THEM.
SHENGHAO WANG: OKAY LEANA MANN: WE WE PRIMARILY INVEST IN A CASH ACCOUNT THAT TRANSFERS NIGHTLY INTO INVESTMENTS, AND THEN BACK TO OUR CHECKING ACCOUNT AND THEN THE INVESTMENT POOL. THOSE HAVE BEEN OUR ONLY TWO INVESTMENTS FOR THE 12 YEARS THAT I'VE MANAGED THEM.
JETT HANNA: ANOTHER, JUST FOR MY EDUCATION, QUESTION, HOW, HOW IS OUR INVESTMENT ADVISOR PAID? IS IT? IS IT ON A COMMISSION BASIS OR ON A FLAT FEE PER YEAR? LEANA MANN: IT'S A FLAT FEE CONSULTING ANNUAL CONTRACT.
SHENGHAO WANG: AND JUST MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY. SO ON THE SECTION EIGHT, AMENDMENTS ARE JUST TO KIND OF STREAMLINE SO THAT IF AMENDMENTS ARE MADE TO THE STATUTE, THAT THEY JUST KIND OF FLOW THROUGH TO THAT.
LEANA MANN: THERE'S ALWAYS SMALL CHANGES TO THE PFIA EVERY LEGISLATIVE SESSION. SO JUST ALLOWS US TO NOT HAVE TO COME BACK AND AMEND.
SHENGHAO WANG: TOTALLY UNDERSTOOD ON REMOVING MARYA CRIGLER, WHO IS A RETIRED, AND THEN IS IT NECESSARY THAT THE
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BOARD HAS TO APPROVE, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS THE AUTHORIZED BROKER DEALERS? LEANA MANN: YES, IT IS SHENGHAO WANG: BY STATUTE, I'M GUESSING.SHENGHAO WANG: OKAY DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? WOULD YOU SAY MS. MANN, THAT WE HAVE A REAL CONSERVATIVE INVESTMENT POLICY? LEANA MANN: WE HAVE AN EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE INVESTMENT POLICY.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: I THINK WE TAKE THAT ROLE VERY SERIOUSLY AS FAR AS BEING FIDUCIARIES FOR THE PUBLIC. AND SO YES, I WANTED TO CONFIRM THAT THAT'S THE CASE. MR. LAVINE.
DICK LAVINE: BUT DESPITE THE SAFETY OF ALL THIS, DID I SEE SOMEWHERE ELSE, THE YIELDS ABOUT 4.5% LEANA MANN: IT IS DICK LAVINE: VERY REASONABLE. SO WE'RE EARNING MONEY ON OUR MONEY WITHOUT RISKING IT.
LEANA MANN: YES DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMENT. IS THERE A...
LEANA MANN: THANK YOU. SO WE ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH IS THERE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE INVESTMENT POLICY AS RECOMMENDED WITH THE RECOMMENDED CHANGES BY THE CHIEF APPRAISER? MR. LAVINE THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE TRANSPARENCY STARS PROGRAM. THEY IS MAKING THE MOTION. MR. HANNAH, AND SECOND IN THE MOTION, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, AYE, THOSE OPPOSED, SEEING NO OPPOSITION. IT IS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM 7J DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON THE CHIEF
[j. Discussion and Possible Action on Chief Appraiser Report]
APPRAISAL REPORT TO INCLUDE 2025 FIELD WORK, HOMESTEAD VERIFICATION PROGRAM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH, TAXPAYER EXPERIENCE, HAVE MULTIPLE TRANSPARENCY STARS THAT ORGANIZATIONS CAN OBTAIN.SNAPSHOT AND LEGISLATIVE UPDATE. MS. MANN AND WE HAVE OBTAINED OUR FIRST, WHICH IS THE OPEN GOVERNMENT AND COMPLIANCE TRANSPARENCY STAR, AND WE WERE AWARDED THIS THIS PAST MONTH. WE'LL CONTINUE TO GO THROUGH THERE'S, I THINK, A TOTAL OF SEVEN, NOT ALL APPLY TO APPRAISAL DISTRICTS, BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY AND OBTAIN ALL THE ONES THAT DO APPLY TO APPRAISAL SHENGHAO WANG: THIS IS A NEW PROGRAM? TRANSPARENCY STARS.
LEANA MANN: IT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE. WELL, CYNTHIA ACTUALLY TOLD ME ABOUT IT, AND I LET HER LOOSE TO GO AND DO ALL OF THE THINGS THEY REQUIRE. SO SHE WAS THE MASTERMIND BEHIND THIS, AND DID VERY WELL MAKING SURE ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTS WERE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE COMPTROLLER WANTED.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: I BELIEVE IT'S BEEN EXISTENCE FOR SOME YEARS, AND IT'S USUALLY USED BY CITIES AND COUNTIES, AND SO WE'RE GETTING INVOLVED AS ANOTHER LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITY NICOLE CONLEY: IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS TOO.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: IN SCHOOL DISTRICTS LEANA MANN: WE ARE STILL AMONGST OUR 2025 FIELD WORK. WE ARE ABOUT 70% COMPLETE. WE'VE COMPLETED MORE PROPERTY INSPECTIONS THIS YEAR THAN WE HAVE IN PAST YEARS. THIS IS SOMEWHAT DUE TO THE DECLINE, SLIGHT DECLINE IN THE MARKET, NOT AS MANY SALES TO VERIFY. BUT WE'VE PUT MORE OF A BURDEN ON OUR STAFF TO REALLY PUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND AND LOOK AT PROPERTIES, GET THE CHARACTERISTICS RIGHT, EITHER THROUGH PHYSICAL INSPECTION OR AERIAL IMAGERY, AND THEY'VE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB. THEY'VE HAVE ABOUT 107 DAYS OF FIELD WORK.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT 20 DAYS REMAINING, AND THEY'VE COMPLETED OVER 100,000 PROPERTY INSPECTIONS, WHICH IS PHENOMENAL. WE ARE ALSO IN THE MONTH IN THE MIDST OF OUR HOMESTEAD VERIFICATION AUDIT, WE HAVE ABOUT A 60% RESPONSE RATE AS OF THIS MORNING, AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MEETING. WE'RE GOING TO DO NUMEROUS NOTIFICATIONS TO PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE NOT RESPONDED. WE'VE DONE FOUR AT THIS POINT. OUR LAST ONE WENT OUT YESTERDAY VIA EMAIL TO THOSE THAT WE HAVE EMAIL ADDRESSES ON FILE, INVITING THEM TO OUR EXEMPTION CLINIC THAT'S BEING HELD SATURDAY IN DEL VALLE IF THEY NEED ASSISTANCE OR THEY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR US, AND REMINDING THEM THAT THEY DO NEED TO RESPOND. WE ARE ABOUT 14% DONE WITH THE WORK THAT IS SURROUNDING THE AUDIT.
SHENGHAO WANG: DO WE HAVE? IS THERE ANY SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU KNOW WILLIAMSON COUNTY, AND KIND OF THE SURROUNDING COUNTIES, HOW THEY'RE EXPERIENCING THIS AUDIT PROCESS? LEANA MANN: I'LL COVER IT A LITTLE BIT IN OUR LEGISLATIVE UPDATE, BUT ALL OF THE APPRAISAL DISTRICTS ARE HAVING SIMILAR ISSUES. THE DRIVER'S LICENSE COMPONENT IS A CHALLENGE.
THERE'S ACTUALLY SOME BILLS FILED TO REPEAL THE HOMESTEAD AUDIT THAT A LOT OF COMMUNICATIONS WITH CONSTITUENTS ON WHAT WHY A DRIVER'S LICENSE HAS TO BE INCLUDED, AND WHAT THEY CAN DO TO ENCOURAGE THEIR LEGISLATORS TO MAKE A CHANGE, BUT THE CODE IS VERY CLEAR THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE A TEXAS DRIVER'S LICENSE OR ID CARD, AND THERE'S NO WIGGLE ROOM FOR US, WHICH FOR THOSE THAT ARE ELDERLY OR DISABLED AND DON'T HAVE A VALID DRIVER'S LICENSE, IS HAS BEEN A PROBLEM. THERE'S A HUGE SAFETY
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CONCERN WITH ANY ORGANIZATION HAVING YOUR DRIVER'S LICENSE NUMBER. WE'VE BEEN IN TALKS WITH TEXAS DPS TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO, BUT THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT US HAVING COPIES OF DRIVER'S LICENSE. UNFORTUNATELY, THE LAW REQUIRES US TO, AND THEN THE COMPTROLLER CHECKS US TO MAKE SURE WE ARE GETTING COPIES OF THEM, SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND HOPE THAT WE COULD GET SOME LEGISLATIVE CHANGE THAT EASES THE BURDEN ON PROPERTY OWNERS. BUT DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: CAN YOU COMMENT ON HOW MUCH ADDITIONAL STAFF TIME THIS IS REQUIRING, AND ABOUT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE EFFORTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE IN THE PAST AND TODAY, THAT MAYBE IS HELPING US IN THIS REGARD.LEANA MANN: SURE WE DID ABOUT 60,000 EXEMPTION APPLICATION PROCESSING IN 2023 OUR AVERAGE IS ABOUT 30,000 PER YEAR. SO WE HAD A HUGE INCREASE IN 23 WE DEDICATED ABOUT 10 STAFF, INCLUDING SOME TEMPS TO WORK THIS PROJECT. OUR TOTAL COST FOR STAFF TIME AND THE DEVELOPMENT CHANGES WE NEEDED FOR OUR EXEMPTION PROCESSING IS ABOUT $200,000 AND THIS IS ONLY ONE OF FIVE YEARS, SO 1/5 OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO DO THIS. IT'S STILL CONSIDERABLY CHEAPER THAN SOME OF THE OUTSOURCING OPTIONS THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT WE'VE BEEN QUOTED. SO WE'RE HAPPY WITH THE ROUTE WE WENT, WHICH USED OUR STAFF, AND I THINK IT GIVES US MORE LEEWAY ON WHAT THEY'RE AUDITING, INSTEAD OF REALLY DIGGING INTO VERY MINOR DETAILS, WE'RE MEETING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAW. WE'RE NOT DIGGING BEYOND THAT DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: SO WELL IN SPENDING A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY ON THE EFFORT TOO.
LEANA MANN: YES, IT'S EXPENSIVE. AND JUST FOR COMPARISON, THE THIRD PARTY VENDOR WE SPOKE TO A COUPLE YEARS AGO, IT WAS ABOUT A MILLION AND A HALF DOLLARS TO AUDIT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS.
SO IT'S EXPENSIVE. I THINK WE'RE GOING ABOUT IT THE BEST WAY WE CAN, BUT IT IS TYING UP EXEMPTION STAFF FROM DOING OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY WOULD BE DOING DURING THE YEAR. WE HAVE ALL OF OUR EXEMPTION CLERKS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, NICOLE CONLEY: EVEN STILL, WITH THE INVESTMENT AND RESOURCE, DEDICATED RESOURCES, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET 100% SORT OF COMPLIANCE OR COMPLETION. I MEAN, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO BE LEFT WITH PENDING CASES, RIGHT CONSIDERING THE THE HOMEOWNERS RESPONSES, HISTORICALLY, LEANA MANN: WE GET ABOUT A 60% RESPONSE RATE, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE SITTING AT. I DON'T KNOW THAT MANY MORE ARE GOING TO RESPOND BEYOND THIS, WHAT'S WHAT ALARMS ME WITH THAT IS THAT THERE IS A GROUP OF THE POPULATION THAT HASN'T RESPONDED THAT QUALIFY FOR THE EXEMPTION. SO IF WE REMOVE THE EXEMPTION AND PREPARE OUR ESTIMATES TO THE TAXING ENTITIES, HOW MANY OF THOSE THEN GET A TAX BILL WITHOUT THE EXEMPTION, AND WE ADD THAT EXEMPTION BACK ON, IT MAKES THAT APPRAISAL ROLL MORE FLUENT, WHICH IS DIFFICULT FOR THE TAXING ENTITIES. WE'RE WORKING ON A PROJECT WHERE WE RUN THE NON RESPONSIVE PROPERTY OWNERS THROUGH DPS RECORDS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET AN IDEA OF HOW MANY OF THOSE ACTUALLY QUALIFY FOR THE EXEMPTION. SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT, AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S COMPLETED BEFORE OUR ESTIMATES IN APRIL.
JETT HANNA: I JUST THOUGHT OF AND THAT YOU'RE RUNNING INTO ONE MORE PROBLEM THAT'S WAIT TIMES ON THE DPS ID CARD AND DRIVER'S LICENSES. IT'S A VERY CONFUSING SYSTEM, AND THERE'S, THERE'S AN OPTION FOR, YOU KNOW, JUST GOING IN VERSUS MAKING AN APPOINTMENT, AND IT'S MONTHS AND MONTHS ON THE DPS SIDE. SO JUST ANOTHER FACTOR, LEANA MANN: IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT TO WORK WITH THEIR OFFICE TOO.
FROM OUR END, WE DO GET A QUARTERLY UPDATE OF DRIVERS LIKE LICENSE RECORDS FROM THEM, BUT THERE'S NOT A REAL TIME API DATABASE, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WE COULD OBTAIN FROM THEM, WHICH WOULD WE COULD INTEGRATE INTO OUR SYSTEM AND MAKE IT MUCH EASIER TO VERIFY PEOPLE'S ELIGIBILITY. BUT THAT'S NOT AVAILABLE, SO WE'RE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN WITH THE TOOLS.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: WE HAVE A LEGISLATIVE CHANGE THAT JUST OCCURRED TO ME THAT MIGHT ADDRESS SOME OF THAT ASSIST TO GIVE AUTHORITY TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER TO GRANT A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION. WHEN THE CHIEF APPRAISER HAS SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO INDICATE THAT THE PARTY IS ELIGIBLE, LEANA MANN: WE HAVE THAT WE ALSO HAVE AN AFFIDAVIT, POSSIBLY IN THE WORKS, WHERE THE HOMEOWNER CAN SWEAR AND AFFIRM THAT THEY DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: RIGHT RIGHT. SOMETHING THAT GIVES YOU SOME FLEXIBILITY, RATHER THAN HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE RE APPLICATION PROCESS ITSELF WHEN YOU HAVE PRETTY GOOD IDEA THAT THEY QUALIFY. JUST A THOUGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD.
LEANA MANN: WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT. 24 COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS
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ALREADY PLANNED FOR THIS YEAR. WE DID OUR FIRST WEBINAR IN JANUARY OVER THE PROPERTY TAX BILL AND CELIA, OUR NEW TAX ASSESSOR, JOINED US ON THAT. WE'VE GOT A FEW DEL VALLE COMMUNITY COALITION EVENTS SCHEDULED. WE ARE DOING AN EXEMPTION CLINIC THIS SATURDAY WITH DVCC. SO IF ANYONE THAT YOU KNOW NEEDS ASSISTANCE WITH THAT EXEMPTION VERIFICATION, WE ARE THERE TO HELP. WE'LL BE TAKING THOSE IN PERSON. WE DO ALSO HAVE ABOUT HALF OF OUR EVENTS ARE SCHEDULED WITH THE VA. WE DO A MONTHLY OUTREACH EVENT THERE FOR VETERANS THAT WE THOSE MAY BE GETTING CANCELED. MOVING FORWARD, WE'VE HEARD SOME RUMORS THAT THEY ARE BEING CANCELED IN OTHER AREAS OF THE STATE, SO THAT WOULD TAKE OUT HALF OF OUR OUTREACH CALENDAR. SO WE'RE WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR OTHER AVENUES FOR THE VETERANS THAT WE CAN DO OUTREACH EVENTS. IF THAT HAPPENS, SHENGHAO WANG: WHO'S DRIVING THAT THE CANCELING THE VA EVENTS? LEANA MANN: WE IT HASN'T HAPPENED IN TRAVIS COUNTY YET, SO I'M NOT COMPLETELY SURE. I THINK IT'S A POLITICAL SHENGHAO WANG: IT ALWAYS IS.LEANA MANN: AND THEN OUR TAXPAYER EXPERIENCE SNAPSHOT FOR THIS MONTH, WE ARE STILL RUNNING AT A 4.71 OUT OF FIVE FOR OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE GROUP GETTING POSITIVE FEEDBACK, THAT THEIR QUESTIONS ARE BEING ANSWERED, THAT THEIR REPRESENTATIVE WAS PROFESSIONAL AND COURTEOUS. THE AVERAGE PHONE WAIT TIME HAS INCREASED TO ABOUT 14 MINUTES BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF CALLS WE'RE GETTING, NOT ONLY FROM TAX BILLS GOING OUT, BUT FROM THE AUDIT PROCESS.
SHENGHAO WANG: THERE ARE A LOT OF BUSINESSES WHO WOULD KILL FOR A 4.7 GOOGLE STAR RATING.
LEANA MANN: AND THEN OUR FINAL ITEM IS A BRIEF LEGISLATIVE UPDATE THERE. THE HOUSE HAS APPOINTED A NEW SPEAKER. WE HAVE 3008 BILLS THAT WERE FILED AS OF THE 24 SO LAST FRIDAY, AND WE'RE TRACKING 334 WHAT WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS POINT OUR COMMITTEE ASSIGNMENTS FOR THE HOUSE, I THINK THEIR PREF SHEETS ARE DUE TODAY, SO WE MAY KNOW BY NEXT WEEK, BUT THEY'RE THE BIG TWO ITEMS ARE APPRAISAL LIMITATIONS AND EXEMPTIONS AND HOW THAT PROPERTY TAX SAVINGS IS GOING TO BE DONE. SO WE THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF CONTENTIOUS CONTENTION IN THE HOUSE AND BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND SENATE, SO IF ANYTHING REALLY GETS PASSED, WILL YET TO BE SEEN. SO COUPLE BILLS THAT JUST FOR YOU ALL TO BE AWARE OF, IT IS IN OUR PRIORITY HOT WATCH ITEMS. BUT THERE IS A BILL LIKE EVERY SESSION FOR ELECTED CHIEF APPRAISERS, THAT WAS FILED BY CECIL BELL, BECAUSE OF HIS TENURE, COULD VERY WELL GET A HEARING. THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER BILL, HOUSE, BILL 291, FILED BY BELL THAT HAS THE SALES PRICE DISCLOSURE. SO WE'RE HAPPY THAT IT'S GETTING FILED. I DON'T THINK IT'LL MOVE, BUT WE'RE OPTIMISTIC. THERE IS A COUPLE BILLS THAT WE'RE TRACKING THAT WILL LIKELY GET A HEARING, JUST BASED ON WHO FILED THEM FOR CHANGES TO THE PROPERTY VALUE STUDY AND MAINLY THE MARGIN OF ERROR BEING INCREASED. SO THAT WOULD BE POSITIVE. THERE'S ALSO A BILL HOUSE, BILL 416, THAT CHANGES THE CERTIFICATION TIMELINE, WHICH FOR US, IT WOULD GAINING A MONTH OF TIME DURING THE PROTEST SEASON. WOULD BE AMAZING. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT WILL MOVE. I THINK IT PUTS A LOT OF STRESS ON THE TAXING ENTITIES TO THEN COMPLETE ALL THEIR TASK BUT WE'RE TRACKING IT IN HOPES THAT IT IT MOVES. THERE IS FOR PERSONNEL HOUSE BILL 901, WAS A BILL FILED BY BRIAN HARRISON THAT LIMITS EMPLOYEE SALARIES TO NO MORE THAN THE GOVERNOR MAKES IN EACH BIENNIUM BUDGET, WHICH SOUNDS LIKE A POLICY WISE REALLY GOOD, EXCEPT THE GOVERNOR ONLY PAID ABOUT 150,000 SO WE HAVE A COUPLE STAFF THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED BY THAT. THERE IS A BILL BY GUIAN HOUSE, BILL 1243, THAT REMOVES THE SINGLE HOMESTEAD THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER STATE LAW. SO A MARRIED COUPLE, IF THEY LIVED IN TWO SEPARATE HOUSES, COULD QUALIFY FOR TWO HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS. I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE A LARGE FISCAL IMPACT ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BUT WE'LL TRACK THAT. GAREN FILED HOUSE BILL 1286, THAT INCREASES THE ATTORNEYS FEES THAT PROPERTY OWNERS CAN GET, AND THAT ONE WILL HAVE A BIG FISCAL IMPACT AS WELL, AS WELL AS IT MAKES IT HARDER TO FOR APPRAISAL DISTRICTS TO DEFEND, KNOWING THAT THERE'S A HUGE COST THAT COULD BE EXPENDED AT. THE END OF THE LAWSUIT. BUTTON FILED HOUSE BILL 1533,
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AND IT ADDS IT DOES A LOT OF THINGS, BUT THE ONE THING WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THIS NEW NOTICE REQUIREMENT THAT MANDATES SENDING CERTIFIED MAIL FOR NOTIFICATIONS, WHICH THERE'S JUST A HUGE COST WITH THAT. SO WE'LL TRACK THAT. AND THEN SENATE BILL 407, I'M SORRY FOR 72 HAS THE PROHIBITION FOR THE CHIEF APPRAISER TO FILE COUNTERCLAIMS. SO THAT IS BECAUSE OF OUR OUR OUR LAW, OUR SUPREME COURT CASE. WE WERE EXPECTING THAT, SO WE'LL TRACK THAT ONE AS WELL. THERE'S ALSO A BILL TO REPEAL THE HOMESTEAD AUDIT, LIKE I STATED EARLIER.AND THEN THERE'S THE OTHER SIDE OF THE COIN THAT ADDS CDLS, CONCEALED HANDGUN LICENSE TO THE ACCEPTABLE ID THAT WE CAN ACCEPT, BUT THAT IS THE ONLY ITEM. IT DOESN'T ADD A PASSPORT, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE THAT ASK US TO TAKE THAT. SO WE WILL KEEP TRACKING ALL OF THOSE PRIORITY ITEMS. I BELIEVE, AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE. ANY QUESTIONS? DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: CHIEF APPRAISER, ALL RIGHT, I THINK WE MAKE CAN MOVE ON. THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM IS 7K THE STRATEGIC
[k. Discussion on 2024 Strategic Communications Efforts and 2025 Plans and Priorities]
COMMUNICATIONS EFFORTS AND 2025 PLANS AND PRIORITIES THAT MS. MANN AND MISS MARTINEZ WILL DISCUSS 383 OF THE PACKET.LEANA MANN: THANK YOU. WE'VE PROVIDED THE 2024 STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS REPORT. WE SPENT MOST OF 2024 FINE TUNING TRADITIONAL AND DIGITAL MEDIA INITIATIVES I'D LIKE TO JUST SUPPORT AND SAY THANK YOU TO CYNTHIA. SHE HAS TAKEN THE LAST FIVE YEARS REALLY MOLDED US TO HAVE A STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS POLICY AND PRACTICE, AND WE'RE FINALLY SEEING BENEFITS FROM THAT, WHICH IS REALLY A POSITIVE FROM 2024 SO I'LL LET HER GO THROUGH HER ITEMS FOR 2024 CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: I WANT TO START BY GIVING A THANK YOU, A PROFOUND THANK YOU TO THE WHOLE BOARD IN REGARDS TO THE TRANSPARENCY STAR PROGRAM, FIVE YEARS AGO, THIS BOARD MADE A VERY DELIBERATE DECISION THAT YOU ALL WANTED TO CHANGE THE CULTURE AND THE WAY THAT WE HANDLED A LOT OF OUR TAXPAYER TRANSPARENCY ISSUES, A LOT OF OUR ACCOUNTABILITY TO TRAVIS COUNTY TAXPAYERS AND YOU ALL HAVE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH LEANA AND I DURING THAT TIME TO CREATE A VISION AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ACTIONS ON THOSE VISIONS, FROM EVERYTHING FROM UPDATING BOARD POLICIES TO THE FACT THAT WE NOW LIVE STREAM THESE MEETINGS, JUST TO A LOT OF THE EDUCATION THAT WE DO IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW WE WERE ABLE TO REDO OUR WEBSITE, ALL OF THAT COMES FROM THE VISION THAT YOU ALL SET IN THESE MEETINGS, AND THE PRIORITIES THAT YOU ALL LET US KNOW THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. AND Y'ALL HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AMAZINGLY SUPPORTIVE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE SOME OF YOU, I DEFINITELY NEED A LOT OF ASSISTANCE FROM MORE THAN OTHERS, AND NONE OF YOU HAVE EVER TURNED US AWAY. SO I WANTED TO START BY SAYING THANK YOU FOR THAT. BUT TO MOVE INTO THE PRESENTATION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STARTED TO DO IS BECAUSE THE BOARD IS SO INSTRUMENTAL IN HOW WE APPEAR TO THE PUBLIC AND IN OUR TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY EFFORTS. LAST YEAR, WE STARTED PRESENTING TO YOU ALL, KIND OF MY ANNUAL CHECK IN THAT I ALWAYS GIVE TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT I'VE DONE, AND WHY I CONTINUE TO BE EMPLOYED HERE, AND WHY YOU ALL PAY ME. AND SO WE DECIDED TO START PRESENTING THAT TO Y'ALL. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN THAT VEIN, WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN. BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE HERE THAT MAYBE REMEMBER THAT PRESENTATION FROM LAST YEAR, WE DID SET A COUPLE OF PRIORITIES FOR 2024 AND I AM HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE SUCCESSFULLY FULFILLED ALL OF THOSE PRIORITIES. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFICALLY.
YOU HAVE THE REPORT THAT I SUBMITTED TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER IN YOUR PACKET, IF YOU WANT TO READ MORE ABOUT ANYTHING. AND OF COURSE, YOU ALL ARE ALWAYS WELCOME TO CONTACT ME AND WE CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT ANYTHING, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT BUCKETS THAT I GUESS YOU COULD PUT MY WORK INTO. AND SO WE'LL GO THROUGH EACH BUCKET AND JUST KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IN 2024 AND WHAT WE HAVE PLANNED FOR 2025 AND OF COURSE, GET YOU ALL INPUT IN ALL OF THAT. IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY EDUCATION, THERE ARE A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS IN WHICH WE DO THIS, FROM THE WEBSITE TO IN PERSON TO JUST KIND OF OUR GENERAL CONTACT WITH TAXPAYERS AND OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE, CUSTOMER SERVICE PRINCIPLES, BUT IN 2024 WE WERE ABLE TO DO 50 COMMUNITY OUTREACH EVENTS, WHICH IS MORE THAN TWO TIMES WHAT WE WERE ABLE TO DO IN 2023 AND A BIG PART OF THIS, I THINK, CAN BE ATTRIBUTED TO NEW LEADERSHIP. PEOPLE WANTED TO MEET LEANA. THEY WANTED TO GET TO KNOW HER. THEY WANTED TO HEAR WHAT HER VISION FOR THE DISTRICT WAS, AND SO WE KEPT GETTING
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INVITATIONS EVERYWHERE. WITH THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO, IN PERSON, REACH MORE THAN 2800 PEOPLE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO THEN GET THEIR FEEDBACK ON THAT LIKE HAS BEEN MENTIONED AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS. WE WERE ABLE TO ADOPT A SURVEY TOOL. WE WOULD ASK PEOPLE AT THE END OF OUTREACH ACTIVITIES JUST GIVE US FEEDBACK. AND WE WERE, WE WERE RUNNING ON A 4.6 OUT OF FIVE TAXPAYER SATISFACTION RATING WITH THOSE INTERACTIONS. WITH THAT, THOUGH, WE QUICKLY IDENTIFIED A LITTLE BIT OF AN ISSUE WITH OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WHICH IS THAT PREVIOUSLY, EVERYTHING HAD BEEN DEPENDENT ON THE CHIEF APPRAISER. AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, SHE HAS A LOT OF STUFF TO DO.SOMETIMES WE WOULD GET A LOT OF INVITATIONS, AND THE CHIEF APPRAISER JUST DOESN'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT. SO LEANA AND I QUICKLY FIGURED OUT THAT WE NEEDED TO EXPAND OUR RESOURCES, OUR INTERNAL RESOURCES IN THAT MATTER, AND SO WE FORMED THE INTERNAL CONTACT TEAM, WHICH IS A TEAM OF ABOUT 20 MANAGERS THAT ARE TRAINED TO REPRESENT THE DISTRICT PUBLICLY AT DIFFERENT TYPES OF EVENTS USING DIFFERENT SKILL SETS. A LOT OF THEM ARE APPRAISERS WHO HAVE BEEN WITH US FOR ALMOST A DECADE, OR MORE THAN A DECADE OR THERE ARE CUSTOMER SERVICE FOLKS, AND THEY SPECIALIZE IN EXEMPTIONS. WE DO DO QUARTERLY UPDATE MEETINGS WITH THIS TEAM, WHERE WE GET THEIR FEEDBACK ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT THEY HAVE TO DEAL WITH, ABOUT EVERY INTERACTION THAT THEY HAVE WITH TAXPAYERS, ABOUT WHAT THEIR IDEAS ARE, WHAT PAIN POINTS THEY'RE SEEING, HOW WE CAN MAKE THEIR LIVES EASIER, HOW WE CAN MAKE TAXPAYERS LIVES EASIER. AND SO ALL OF THAT FEEDBACK COMES TO US, AND THEN LEANA AND I COME OUT OF THOSE MEETINGS WITH A TO DO LIST OF ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO START WORKING ON. ALSO IN 2024 WE ALSO PRIORITIZE REACHING OUT TO OUR SPANISH DOMINANT TAXPAYERS. WE IDENTIFIED SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT EDUCATIONAL MATERIALS THAT WE'VE CREATED IN ENGLISH, AND WE MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE TRANSLATED NOT JUST IN SPANISH, BUT INTO CULTURALLY COMPETENT SPANISH, WHICH SOME OF YOU KNOW IS A BIG DIFFERENCE FROM JUST TRANSLATION, AND THEN WE ALL START, ALSO STARTED DOING A BLOCK WALKING CAMPAIGN WITH THE DEL VALLE COMMUNITY COALITION. THAT IS A RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'VE BEEN FORMING OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND THEY'VE BEEN AMAZING WITH US. AS FAR AS REACHING OUT TO THAT SOUTHEAST CORRIDOR IN TRAVIS COUNTY, WHEN WE ALSO LOOK AT COMMUNITY EDUCATION, WE LOOK AT THE INFORMATION THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AND WE SEND OUT TO TAXPAYERS. AND A REALLY BIG FOCUS IN 2024 WAS TRAVIS TAXES.COM AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE CHANGED THE LAW SO THAT WE WERE NO LONGER REQUIRED TO SEND A POSTCARD TO PROPERTY OWNERS EVERY AUGUST LETTING THEM KNOW THAT THEIR POTENTIAL TAX BILL OR THE PROPOSED TAX BILL WAS AVAILABLE ONLINE. WE DID IT ANYWAY. LEANA, LET ME HAVE SOME FUN WITH THAT. AND BECAUSE THERE WAS NO LONGER A STATE REQUIREMENT, IT NO LONGER MEANT THAT I HAD TO USE SPECIFIC STATE MANDATED LANGUAGE ON THAT POSTCARD. SO I CHANGED THE LANGUAGE. WE WENT FROM A STATE MANDATED 22ND GRADE READING LEVEL, WHICH I'M REALLY NOT SURE WHAT THAT IS, I THINK IT'S PHD LEVEL, TO AN 11TH GRADE READING LEVEL, AND WE DISTRIBUTED IT. WE ONLY WENT TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, SO IT WAS ABOUT SO IT WAS ABOUT 370,000 AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO VISITED THAT WEBSITE TO EDUCATE THEMSELVES ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THEIR PROPERTY TAXES AND WHERE THAT MONEY IS COMING FROM AND GOING BY MORE THAN A THIRD. SO DEFINITELY A SUCCESSFUL VENTURE THERE. I WILL ALSO SAY THAT I DID A SURVEY OF CADS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS, JUST TO KIND OF SEE COMPARISON. BECAUSE SOME OF Y'ALL THAT KNOW ME VERY WELL KNOW THAT ONE OF MY PRINCIPLES IS I DO NOT EVER LIKE ANYONE ELSE DOING SOMETHING BETTER THAN WE ARE. SO I DID THIS SURVEY SPECIFICALLY TO FIND OUT WHAT OTHER CADS WERE DOING NOW THAT THE POSTCARD MANDATE HAD BEEN WITHDRAWN, MOST CATS DIDN'T DO A POSTCARD. I COULDN'T FIND ANOTHER CAD THAT CONTINUED TO DO THE POSTCARD, AND AS A RESULT, THE CADS THAT DID TAKE DATA ON THEIR WEBSITE SAW A 40% DECREASE IN THE NUMBER OF TAXPAYERS THAT VISITED THEIR TRUTH IN TAXATION WEBSITE. SO ON AVERAGE ACROSS THE STATE, CADS SAW 40% DECREASE, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE A 30% INCREASE, AND I DO THINK A BIG PART OF THAT HAS PLAYED A ROLE IN OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE INTERACTIONS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, IN THAT WE AREN'T GETTING PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE AS ANGRY OR AS FLUID WITH THEIR EMOTIONS IN REGARDS TO THEIR TAX BILLS, A LOT OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE COMING TO US HAVE A VERY GOOD BASE EDUCATION ABOUT WHERE THOSE INCREASES ARE COMING FROM, AND THAT THEY WERE COMING FROM THE VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE ELECTIONS, FROM THE BOND ELECTIONS THAT THEY WERE FACING. SO THAT WAS DEFINITELY A BIG PLUS. ALSO IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY EDUCATION, WE LOOK AT WHAT WE CALL DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: MISS MARTINEZ CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: YES.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: WOULD YOU RECOMMEND CONTINUING TO SEND THE POSTCARD? CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: YES, I WOULD. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE IT IN THE BUDGET, EVEN THOUGH IT IS STILL NOT STATE MANDATED.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: I THINK THAT THE 30% INCREASE IS A REALLY INDICATIVE OF HOW PEOPLE FIND IT USEFUL, AND IT'S A GOOD REMINDER FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THAT WEBSITE, YES, CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: ESPECIALLY WHEN I CHANGE THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS, THAT WAS A BIG THING.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: THANK YOU.
CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: SO ANOTHER CONCEPT WITH COMMUNITY EDUCATION WAS THE EXEMPTION DEFICIT, AND WE INTRODUCED THIS CONCEPT. INTRODUCED THIS CONCEPT TO Y'ALL IN FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR. BUT IT'S THE IDEA THAT WE USE CENSUS DATA TO LOOK AT OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS IN THE COUNTY, AND IDEALLY, THAT IS PROBABLY OUR ESTIMATE FOR HOW MANY EXEMPTIONS SHOULD BE IN THE COUNTY. AND THE CENSUS DOES DIVIDE THIS BY ZIP CODE, AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO TAKE THE CENSUS ESTIMATE. VERSUS OUR ACTUAL
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NUMBERS BY ZIP CODE. AND WE CAME UP WITH THIS EXEMPTION DEFICIT MAP. THE DARKER AREAS ARE WHERE WE ARE MORE OFF BASE FROM WHERE THE CENSUS SAYS THAT WE SHOULD BE. AND OUR GOAL AT THE START OF THE YEAR WAS THAT EVERY TRAVIS COUNTY TAXPAYER THAT LEGALLY QUALIFIES FOR AN EXEMPTION IS CLAIMING ONE. AND SO WE WENT INTO OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH EFFORTS WITH THAT IN MIND, OVERALL, AT THE END OF THE YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO DECREASE THE EXEMPTION DEFICIT COUNTY WIDE BY 3.32% AND THERE WERE ACTUALLY SOME AREAS OF THE COUNTY WHERE WE REDUCED IT BY MORE THAN 30% SO PFLUGERVILLE, THE SLAUGHTER AT LANE AREA, THE MUELLER AREA, STEINER RANCH, BEE CAVE AND CIRCLE C ALL SAW 30% DECREASES.BUT AREAS WITH THE LARGEST DEFICITS GOING INTO THE NEW YEAR STILL ARE DEL VALLE, PFLUGERVILLE, MANOR AND SUNSET VALLEY. SO EVEN THOUGH WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT WORK IN PFLUGERVILLE, PFLUGERVILLE IS STILL ONE OF THE DARKER AREAS OF OUR MAP. SO WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF WORK THAT WE NEED TO DO THERE. SO GOALS FOR 2025 WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON THAT EXEMPTION DEFICIT. WE DO NOT WANT ANY TAXPAYER PAYING MORE THAN THEY SHOULD HAVE TO PAY. IF YOU ARE LEGALLY ENTITLED BY LAW TO CLAIM AN EXEMPTION AND THAT LOWERS YOUR PROPERTY TAX BILL, THEN WE WANT YOU TO HAVE THAT EXEMPTION.
WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING AGAIN ON PFLUGERVILLE, MANOR, DEL VALLE AND SUNSET VALLEY. WE ALSO WANT TO START PARTNERING WITH SOME OF OUR TAXING ENTITIES TO PROVIDE EDUCATION SPECIFICALLY TO OUR PUBLIC EMPLOYEES AND USING THEIR RESOURCES, WE HAVE A REALLY GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN AND THE CITY OF BOSTON HAS SOME AMAZING RESOURCES, AS FAR AS PROVIDING INTERPRETERS OR ASL INTERPRETERS THAT CAN HELP WITH THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, TECHNOLOGY SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A SPEAKER IN ENGLISH, BUT PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO LISTEN IN WHATEVER LANGUAGE IT IS THAT THEY UNDERSTAND. WE DON'T HAVE THOSE CAPABILITIES, AND IT'S PROBABLY NOT FINANCIALLY PRUDENT FOR US TO DEVELOP THEM, BUT IF WE PARTNER WITH ORGANIZATIONS AND TAXING ENTITIES THAT ALREADY HAVE THEM, THEN WE CAN TAP INTO THEM A LOT MORE PERSONALLY, MY HOPE IS THAT WE TARGET AUSTIN ISD, PFLUGERVILLE ISD, MANOR ISD, AND DEL VALLE ISD, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE US DO AT LEAST ONE KIND OF PILOT PROJECT WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SPECIFICALLY WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT PUBLIC EMPLOYEES AND DOING THINGS LIKE MAKING SURE THAT THEY'RE CLAIMING THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS. IF YOU'RE NOT, LET'S FILL OUT YOUR APPLICATION RIGHT NOW, RIGHT HERE. HEY, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO SUCCESSFULLY PROTEST YOUR PROPERTY, THAT KIND OF THING. SO IF I CAN GET AT LEAST ONE PILOT PROGRAM IN 2025 BASED ON THAT, THEN I'M GOING TO BE HAPPY. WE'RE ALSO GOING TO CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY OPPORTUNITIES TO KIND OF SUPPLEMENT STATE MANDATED LANGUAGE, BECAUSE STATE MANDATED LANGUAGE MEANS I HAVE TO USE IT, BUT IT'S ALWAYS NOT VERY CONDUCIVE TO THE TAXPAYER. SO I USUALLY, SOME OF YOU KNOW, TRY TO DO SOME LITTLE DESIGN TRICKS WHENEVER I'M PUTTING TOGETHER SOMETHING THAT WE'RE SENDING OUT TO THE PUBLIC TO WHERE I AM FOLLOWING THE LAW AND DOING WHAT WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO BY THE LAW, AS WE ARE REQUIRED TO DO BY THE LAW. BUT I'M ALSO PUTTING IN SOME EXTRAS IN THERE, SO PEOPLE CAN KIND OF IGNORE WHAT'S OVER HERE AND PAY ATTENTION OVER WHAT'S OVER HERE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE. SO CONTINUING TO DO THAT AS WELL.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: ONE MORE QUESTION, IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO INSERT ANYTHING IN CITY OF AUSTIN UTILITY BILLS? CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. I DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF DEMANDS FOR THAT SPACE, THOUGH, SO THEY THEY HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL, EVEN WITHIN INTERNAL CITY OF AUSTIN DEPARTMENTS, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE A WAIT LIST OF THINGS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO INSERT INTO THAT FREE SPACE, IF YOU'LL ASK AND SEE YES, I CAN ALWAYS ASK, OKAY, AS FAR AS EXTERNAL RELATIONS, A BIG PART OF OUR WORK WAS IN DEVELOPING COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS, BECAUSE IT JUST GIVES US A LOT MORE CREDIBILITY IF WE CAN SIDE SADDLE UP TO SOMEBODY WHO CAN LET ON LEND US THEIR RELATIONSHIPS AND THEIR RESOURCES AS WELL. SO BIG COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS THAT WERE FORMED IN 2024 INCLUDED AUSTIN TITLE, THE AUSTIN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, AND, OF COURSE, THE AUSTIN VA CLINIC, WHERE WE GO ONCE A MONTH AND WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO OUR LOCAL VETERANS. I SHOULD ALSO NOTE THAT WE ARE THE AUSTIN VA CLINIC. THEIR THEIR EVENTS ARE SPONSORED SPECIFICALLY AND PUT ON BY THE CITY OF AUSTIN. AND THERE ARE ABOUT 30 ORGANIZATIONS THAT WANT TO BE THERE EVERY MONTH, BUT BECAUSE OF FIRE CODE RESTRICTIONS, YOU CAN REALLY ONLY HAVE ABOUT 20 ORGANIZATIONS. WE ARE THE ONLY NON CITY ENTITY THAT IS INVITED EVERY MONTH. AND THE REASON THAT WE ARE INVITED EVERY MONTH IS BECAUSE OF THE DEMAND FOR ASSISTANCE FROM US. BECAUSE WE GO WE BRING APPLICATIONS, VETERANS CAN FILL OUT THE APPLICATION RIGHT THEN AND THERE. ONE OF OUR STAFF MEMBERS, WHO IS A VETERAN HERSELF, GOES WITH ME TO THESE AND SHE KNOWS THE VA CLINIC SYSTEM LIKE YOU CAN'T IMAGINE. AND IF THEY'RE MISSING A FORM, SHE TELLS THEM EXACTLY WHO TO TALK TO IN WHAT OFFICE AND WHERE THEY ARE IN THAT BUILDING. AND BY THE TIME WE LEAVE THAT CLINIC, WE'VE GOT THAT VETERAN TAKEN CARE OF. SO IT ENDS UP BEING A VERY BENEFICIAL EVENT FOR US, NEW TOOLS THAT WE ADOPTED IN 2024 INCLUDING WE FINALLY GOT OUR NEXT DOOR PUBLIC AGENCY ACCOUNT.
THAT TOOK ME FIVE YEARS, BUT I DID IT. WE STARTED A SUB STACK NEWSLETTER. WE ADOPTED THE PUBLIC RELATIONS MANUAL, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY IAAO, AND BY THE COMPTROLLER AS PART OF THE MAP REVIEW, AND WE DEVELOPED THE BOARD GUIDE TO PUBLIC THE BOARD
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MEMBER GUIDE TO PUBLIC RELATIONS. SO WE'VE DONE A LOT OF REALLY GREAT WORK THERE. I'LL ALSO ADD THAT THE RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE FORMED PREVIOUSLY IN 2023 HAVE BEEN EXTREMELY FRUITFUL. THE DEL VALLE COMMUNITY COALITION, LIKE I SAID, DID BLOCK WALKING. WE ALSO HAVE A DATA EXCHANGE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE EAST AUSTIN CONSERVANCY SO THAT THEY CAN TARGET THEIR OUTREACH INTO PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEIR ZIP CODES THAT THAT NEED ASSISTANCE. AND WE ACTUALLY WERE TALKING TO THEM THIS MORNING, AND WE GAVE THEM A LIST OF ALL OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS IN THEIR JURISDICTION THAT IS SUBJECT TO THE VERIFICATION PROCESS WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM YET, AND THEY'RE GOING TO START DOING BLOCK WALKING FOR US AS WELL. SO TAPPING INTO THESE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THAT ALREADY HAVE THOSE RELATIONSHIPS THAT PEOPLE ALREADY TRUST, AND THEN ARE WILLING TO KNOCK ON PEOPLE'S DOORS AND SAY, HEY, YOU HAVEN'T FILLED OUT THIS FORM YET, AND IF YOU DON'T, YOUR TAX BILLS ARE GOING TO GO UP. SO THAT'S BEEN REALLY GREAT FOR 2025 A COUPLE OF GOALS THAT WE HAVE ARE TO SOLIDIFY COMMUNICATIONS PROTOCOL FOR OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS. A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE GO TO THEIR ELECTEDS WITH CONSTITUENT CONCERNS, AND WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A WAY OF FUNNELING THOSE APPROPRIATELY.THE POSITION THAT WE'RE IN RIGHT NOW, I THINK, MIRRORS THE POSITION THAT WE WERE IN FIVE YEARS AGO WITH REPORTERS AND MEDIA RELATIONS. WHEN I FIRST CAME ON BOARD, WE DIDN'T OFFICIALLY HAVE A SYSTEM FOR HANDLING ALL OF THAT, AND IT TOOK A WHILE FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN WHO I WAS AND WHAT I DID AND HOW WE WOULD PUT EVERYTHING TOGETHER. SO WE'RE KIND OF IN THE SAME PLACE AS FAR AS ELECTED OFFICIALS GO, BUT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT, AND SO I'M REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT, ALSO SUCCESSFULLY NAVIGATING THE 89TH LEGISLATIVE SESSION, WHICH WILL, OF COURSE, WILL LARGELY BE ON LEANA SHOULDERS, AND THEN IDENTIFYING AND DEVELOPING NEW OPPORTUNITIES WITH TAX OFFICE LEADERSHIP AS ALL OF YOU KNOW BRUCE ELFONT RETIRED, AND HIS SUCCESSOR, CELIA ISRAEL, IS NOW IN CHARGE. LEANA AND I HAVE ALREADY MET WITH HER SENIOR STAFF, AND I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR SOME COLLABORATION, JUST NEW OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE COME FORWARD. MEDIA RELATIONS WAS ANOTHER REALLY GREAT YEAR FOR US. NOT ONLY DID WE HAVE MORE THAN 220 PIECES OF MEDIA COVERAGE, WITH 90% POSITIVE COVERAGE AND 97% ON MESSAGE, BUT THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR IN A ROW THAT WE GOT ZERO NEGATIVE MEDIA STORIES OR INQUIRIES ABOUT THE PROTEST PROCESS, AND CONSIDERING HOW ANGRY SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE WITH THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN THERE, THAT IS AN AMAZING STATISTICS TO DO TWO YEARS IN A ROW, AND ALL THE CREDIT FOR THAT GOES TO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE STAFF AND OUR APPRAISERS, BECAUSE OF HOW THEY CONDUCT THEMSELVES DURING THOSE INTERACTIONS, AND HOW THEY DO THEIR BEST, EVEN WHEN YOU CAN'T MAKE SOMEONE HAPPY, TO AT LEAST MAKE THEM HAPPY AS BEST AS YOU CAN. SO GOALS FOR 2025 ARE TO CONTINUE THAT SUCCESS. IN REGARDS TO THE TAXPAYER EXPERIENCE. SOME OF THE BIG THINGS WE DID WERE WE ESTABLISHED THE TAXPAYER EXPERIENCE EVALUATION PROJECT, WHICH IS THOSE SURVEYS THAT WE GIVE YOU ALL THE INFORMATION ON AT EVERY MEETING, AND THE CUSTOMER SERVICE ESCALATION LADDER REALLY MAKING SURE THAT A AN ANGRY TAXPAYER ISN'T BEING HANDED OFF FROM PERSON TO PERSON, THAT THERE IS A WAY THAT INTERNALLY, THAT WE CAN MANAGE THINGS SO THAT THE RIGHT PERSON GETS THE RIGHT PROBLEM AND CAN HANDLE IT. OVERALL FOR THE YEAR, CUSTOMER SERVICE HAD AN OVERALL RATING OF 4.51 AND INFORMAL MEETINGS HAD AN OVERALL RATING OF 4.121 THING THAT I DO WANT TO SAY IS THAT IN THE MIDST OF PROPERTY TAX BILLS COMING OUT AND THE AVERAGE PROPERTY OWNER SEEING ABOUT A $1,200 INCREASE THIS YEAR, OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM WAS ABLE TO MAINTAIN A 4.7 OUT OF FIVE RANKING IN NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR. AND I THINK THAT THAT IS REALLY AMAZING AND REALLY SPEAKS HIGHLY TO THAT TEAM AND HOW THEY'RE ABLE TO CONDUCT THEMSELVES AND MANAGE ESPECIALLY ESCALATED COMPLAINTS. GOALS FOR 2025 INCLUDE CONTINUING THAT GOOD WORK AND SEEING HOW WE CAN MAKE EVERYTHING BETTER. I AM WORKING WITH OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE DIRECTOR AND OUR DIRECTOR OF RESIDENTIAL SPECIFICALLY TO LOOK AT THE SURVEYS THAT WE GET AND SEE IF THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ASK, DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ASK THAT MAYBE MIGHT BE MORE FRUITFUL IN TERMS OF LETTING US KNOW WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN MAKE AND JUST HOW WE CAN MAKE THE EXPERIENCE MORE BENEFICIAL.
SHENGHAO WANG: QUICK QUESTION, CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: YES. MR. WANG SHENGHAO WANG: DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT SO WHEN IT SAY INFORMAL MEETINGS, THOSE ARE FOR PROTESTS, YES. DURING THE PROTEST PROCESS, YES. AND IS THERE AN INDICATION WHY THAT'S LOWER THAN A LOT OF OUR OTHER SATISFACTION RANKINGS? CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: SO WITH THE INFORMAL MEETING, WHEN YOU FILE A PROTEST, YOU ARE GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH ONE OF OUR APPRAISERS TO KIND OF MAKE YOUR PITCH AND SEE IF WE AGREE WITH YOU, OR AT LEAST GET FEEDBACK ON WHAT YOUR PITCH IS.
SO BEFORE YOU GO IN FRONT OF THE APPRAISAL REVIEW BOARD, YOU KNOW, HEY, IT'D BE BETTER IF YOU HAD PHOTOS OR QUOTES OR THAT KIND OF A THING. WE THINK IT'S A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
FIRST, IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF AN ADVERSARIAL SITUATION. IT'S NOT AS ADVERSARIAL AS THE ARB PROCESS, THE ARB HEARING PROCESS. BUT WE DO HAVE SOME FOLKS THAT HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF ENERGY AND KIND OF COME OUT OF THAT WITH THE SAME LEVEL OF ANGER AND DISSATISFACTION. WE DO OUR BEST TO ADDRESS THAT AS MUCH AS WE CAN. I ALSO THINK. THAT THIS HAS REVEALED SOMETHING
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ABOUT HOW WE TRAIN OUR APPRAISERS, WHICH IS THAT A LOT OF OUR RESIDENTIAL APPRAISERS, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES MOSTLY DEALING WITH THE INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNERS, HAVE NOT NECESSARILY GOTTEN THE SAME CUSTOMER SERVICE TRAINING THAT OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE STAFF HAS GOTTEN. AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE STARTED TO DO LAST YEAR WAS TO START TO GIVE THEM SOME MORE OF THAT DE ESCALATION TRAINING, SOME MORE OF THAT MANAGEMENT TRAINING, AS FAR AS, HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH AN ANGRY PERSON, THAT KIND OF A THING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS A PROCESS. IT'S ONE THING WHEN YOU DEAL WITH IT EVERY DAY AND YOU'RE IN THE CUSTOMER SERVICE DEPARTMENT, VERSUS WHEN IT'S A SEASONAL THING AND YOU'RE REALLY ONLY GETTING YELLED AT FOR FOUR MONTHS OF THE YEAR. SO IT BECOMES AN ISSUE OF ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT IT IS THAT WE NEED TO PROVIDE OUR STAFF SO THAT THEY CAN DO THE JOB WELL, NOT JUST SO THAT THEY CAN COME OUT OF THE JOB SATISFIED, BUT SO THAT THE TAXPAYER CAN COME OUT OF THE EXPERIENCE IS SATISFIED.SHENGHAO WANG: I MEAN, I STILL THINK IT'S YEAH, AS YOU SAID IT FOR SEMI ADVERSARIAL PROCEEDING, IT'S PRETTY GOOD. I DON'T THINK MOST LAWYERS HAVE A FOUR POINT SOMETHING RATING OF THEIR OPPOSING COUNSEL.
CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: WE DO OUR BEST. YOU KNOW, LEANA SAID THIS BEFORE, BUT WHEN WE WENT INTO THIS, WE WERE ALL KIND OF UNSURE WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, AND MAYBE A LITTLE SCARED OF WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE GOING TO LOOK LIKE. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT, THAT SAME LEVEL OF INTROSPECTION OF, HOW AM I REALLY DOING? HOW ARE WE REALLY DOING THIS JOB? AND SO WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN VERY PROUD OF OUR STAFF.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: AND MR. HAVENSTRITE HAS TO LEAVE IN THREE MINUTES, AND I WANT TO GIVE HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE FOR MISS MARTINEZ.
JOHN HAVENSTRITE: THANK YOU. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I WILL SIMPLY SAY THAT THAT I'VE APPRECIATED THE TIME IN THE GENEROSITY ABOUT ALL THE FOLKS IN THE ROOM. I'VE ENJOYED MEETING YOU ALL, AND I'M VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE LEVEL OF CARE THAT EVERYBODY IS SHOWING THE PROCESS. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RUN YOU OUT. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, I'M SORRY. GO AHEAD, MISTER HANNAH, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO JETT HANNA: SAY HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE YOUR PROFESSIONAL WORK. HERE IT'S, I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE THIS KIND IN BUSINESS. YOU. YOU'RE DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB. FROM EVERYTHING I SEE, THERE'S THINGS TO KEEP WORKING ON. OBVIOUSLY, I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: I APPRECIATE THAT. WHEN WE DID JOHN'S BOARD ORIENTATION, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HE ASKED US WAS, WHEN DID YOU ALL START DOING ALL OF THIS STUFF? AND WE HAD TO REALLY GO BACK, YOU KNOW, FIVE YEARS, AND THEN EVEN SPECIFICALLY, TWO YEARS, AND THEN ONE YEAR, TO LEANA COMING ON AS CHIEF APPRAISER, AND HER VISION FOR HOW WE WANTED TO HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE. AND ONE OF THE THINGS SHE SAID IN THAT MEETING WAS, I'M AN ACCOUNTANT. I NEED DATA. I NEED NUMBERS. AND SO ONE OF THE BIG QUESTIONS WHEN SHE GAVE ME KIND OF WHAT SHE WANTED, WAS, I HAD TO FIGURE OUT WHERE OUR NUMBERS AND WHERE ARE WE MISSING NUMBERS THAT WE SHOULD BE GETTING THEM. AND SO THINGS LIKE THE SURVEY TOOL THAT WE ADOPTED AND WE IMPLEMENTED, BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO START GAGING WHERE WE WERE AND WHERE WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED TO BE. SO A BIG PART OF THAT IS JUST THE WAY THE VISION HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, WHICH, AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE BOARD AND Y'ALL INPUT ON THAT. ONE LAST PART ABOUT THIS IS GOING TO BE DIGITAL. ANOTHER BIG FOCUS FOR 2024 WAS OUR COMPLIANCE WITH WEB CONTENT ACCESSIBILITY GUIDELINES. THERE IS NOW A FEDERAL RULE THAT REQUIRES THAT ALL OF OUR DIGITAL CONTENT BE ACCESSIBLE TO A CERTAIN LEVEL, AND WE HAVE TO BE IN COMPLIANCE BY APRIL 2026 AND SO IN ADDITION TO JUST KIND OF LEARNING WHAT IN COMPLIANCE MEANT. WE DID ADOPT A SOFTWARE THAT WILL HELP US KIND OF MOVE OUR ALL OF OUR DIGITAL COMPONENTS INTO THAT ELEMENT. WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THE PROJECT IN AUGUST, WE WERE AT 66.4% COMPLIANCE, AND AT THE END OF LAST YEAR, WE HAD MOVED UP TO 75.56 COMPLIANCE. SO OBVIOUSLY ONE OF OUR GOALS FOR 2025 IS TO BRING THE WEBSITE AND ALL OF OUR DIGITAL TOOLS IN COMPLIANCE BY THE END OF THE YEAR. NOW, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE AT 100% IT'S KIND OF NOT POSSIBLE TO BE IN 100% BECAUSE OF THE WAY TECHNOLOGY CONSTANTLY CHANGES, BUT TO ME, I WANT TO SEE US BE AT AROUND THAT 95% LEVEL, MAYBE 93 IF I'M BEING FORGIVING OF MYSELF BY DECEMBER OF 2025, AGAIN, WE HAVE UNTIL APRIL OF 2026, TO DO THAT. I AM PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON THE TCAD WEBSITE, BUT LEANNA IS WORKING WITH OUR THIRD PARTY VENDORS TO ENSURE THAT THINGS LIKE THE PROPERTY SEARCH, THE PORTAL AND ALL OF OUR ONLINE FORMS ARE IN COMPLIANCE, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE TO WHETHER WE OWN IT OR NOT. IF WE PUT IT OUT THERE FOR TAXPAYERS TO USE IT TO DO BUSINESS WITH US, THEN WE ARE REQUIRED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS IN FULL COMPLIANCE. AND SO SOME OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT IS I GET TO TRANSCRIBE ALL OF OUR BOARD MEETINGS ONLINE, WHICH IS A LOT OF FUN. AND THEN WE ARE ADOPTING NEW TECHNOLOGIES, SO AT SOME POINT, MIDDLE OF THE YEAR, PROBABLY. AROUND AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER, WE'LL START ADDING LIVE CAPTIONS TO THE STREAM ON
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THE BOARD MEETING, SO PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AT THE BOTTOM, AND ALSO ADDING THAT COMPONENT TO TAXPAYER WEBINARS.SO THAT'S KIND OF AN OVERVIEW. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COMMENTS? SHENGHAO WANG: NO. THANK YOU. ONE, ONE QUESTION. I'M NOT SUGGESTING ANYTHING, BUT ARE THERE AREAS I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN MIND IN PARTICULAR, BUT ARE THERE AREAS WHERE YOU THINK MAYBE WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO GET MORE DATA OR FEEDBACK ON TAXPAYER SATISFACTION THAT MAYBE WE AREN'T RIGHT NOW, CYNTHIA MARTINEZ: I THINK THAT'S THAT'S A HARD QUESTION TO ANSWER, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE WORK WE DO BETWEEN DEPARTMENT AND DEPARTMENT IS VERY DIFFERENT, AND IT'S ALSO SEASONAL, SO IT BECOMES HARD TO GET ENOUGH DATA SOMETIMES TO MAKE CONCLUSIONS, UNLESS YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A REALLY LONG TIME AND YOU HAVE A CERTAIN COMFORT LEVEL ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON, I'LL SAY THAT ONE OF MY BIGGEST FRUSTRATIONS IS ACTUALLY I WORK WITH OUR DIRECTORS AND WITH THE CHIEF APPRAISER TO DO A LOT OF DATA IN HOUSE. AND LIKE I SAID, I DON'T LIKE ANYONE DOING THE JOB BETTER THAN WE ARE. AND SO A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I GO TO OTHER CADS AND I'M LOOKING FOR COMPARISON DATA TO SEE HOW ARE YOU HANDLING THAT, OR HOW GOOD ARE YOU DOING, THE OTHER CADS DON'T HAVE THE DATA. THEY'RE NOT TRACKING THINGS THE WAY THAT WE ARE, OR THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT THE WAY WE DO, SO THAT IT'S IMPACTING THE DECISIONS THAT THEY MAKE. AND I THINK THAT'S A REALLY BIG FRUSTRATION FOR ME, BECAUSE IF IN OUR DATA, I'M PINPOINTING A PROBLEM FOR A TAXPAYER THAT MAYBE NEEDS A LEGISLATIVE FIX, I CAN'T REASONABLY SAY THAT IT'S JUST A TRAVIS COUNTY ISSUE VERSUS IT BEING A STATE ISSUE, BECAUSE A LOT OF THE OTHER CADS JUST AREN'T TRACKING IT THE WAY THAT WE ARE. AND I THINK THERE ARE PROBABLY A LOT OF TAXPAYER ISSUES THAT COULD BE ADDRESSED SYSTEMICALLY IF WE WERE ALL FUNCTIONING THE SAME WAY AND KEEPING TRACK OF THE SAME THING.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: QUESTION FROM THE CHAIR.
JAMES VALADEZ: I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE WORK OF THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT CYNTHIA OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. SPECIFICALLY, I WANT TO TETHER TWO ITEMS TOGETHER THAT WEREN'T ACKNOWLEDGED BUT I SEE AS BEING CORRELATED, AND IT'S THE HOMESTEAD AUDIT PROCESS TIED WITH ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE WITH REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS, AND I THINK THE RATE OF RESPONSE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE FROM THE HOMESTEAD AUDIT PROCESS IS DIRECTLY CORRELATED WITH THE SWEAT EQUITY AND INVESTMENT OF THIS DEPARTMENT. I THINK WE WOULD BE IN A MUCH WORSE SITUATION HAD WE NOT SPENT THOSE RESOURCES IN THAT MANNER. AND SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU.
NICOLE CONLEY: I'D LIKE TO ECHO THAT. I MEAN, I JUST THINK THAT THE LEVEL OF OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU, KNOW, I LOOK AT YOUR RATINGS, AND IT JUST IT BLOWS MY MIND, CONSIDERING THE FACT WE HAD HISTORIC PROPERTY TAX INCREASES THIS LAST GO ROUND.
BUT I THINK PEOPLE STARTING TO GET UNDERSTAND MORE BECAUSE YOUR COMMUNICATION IN YOUR OUTREACH, I THINK PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THEIR TAX BILLS MORE APPROPRIATELY. THEY UNDERSTAND THOSE, YOU KNOW, THE SOURCES OF THE IMPACT, THE WAY THEIR BILLS ARE IMPACTED.
THEY CAN, THEY CAN TELL BY THE ENTITIES WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT. AND IT'S BECAUSE OF ALL THE SORT OF LEGWORK THAT I'VE SEEN YOU GUYS OVER THE YEARS, JUST HITTING THE GROUND, WORKING IN DEL VALLE AND UNDERSERVED COMMUNITIES, QUITE FRANKLY, IS REALLY SORT OF TURNED THE TIDE. SO I HAVE UTMOST RESPECT FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING, OUR ABILITY TO GET OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITIES AND TRY TO SERVE THEM AS APPROPRIATELY, AS IMPORTANTLY AS WE CAN, AND WITH ALL THE ATTENTION OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO IN THIS APPRAISAL DISTRICT. YOU ALL NEVER LET THE TAXPAYER SORT OF FALL ON THE LINE. AND SO I APPRECIATE ABOUT THIS, THIS ENTITY, THIS ORGANIZATION, THE SPIRIT BY WHICH WE WORK AS BOARD OF DIRECTORS. SO THANK YOU FOR THAT GOOD WORK.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: THANK YOU, MISS CONNELLY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THANK YOU, MISS MARTINEZ. I APPRECIATE YOU VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM 7L, DISCUSSION POSSIBLE ACTION ON LITIGATION APPEALS. THE BOARD MAY MEET AN EXECUTIVE SESSION TO DELIBERATE ANY MATTER AUTHORIZED BY TEXAS GOVERNMENT
[l. Discussion and Possible Action on Litigation and Appeals Related to Pending and Anticipated Lawsuits]
CODE SECTION 550, 1.001 BUT THIS ITEM WILL NEED TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION SIGNING SECTION 550, 1.071 CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY REGARDING PENDING THEIR CONTEMPLATED LITIGATION SETTLEMENT OFFERS AND MATTERS ON WHICH THE ATTORNEY HAS A DUTY TO ADVISE THE BOARD UNDER THE TEXAS DISCIPLINARY RULES OF PROFESSIONAL CONDUCT OF THE STATE BAR OF TEXAS, SECTION 550, 1.072 IS THERE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION? I SEE A MOTION FROM MR. WANG AND A SECOND FROM MR. LAVINE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR. OKAY, LET'S GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. LET'S TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK, IF THAT'S OKAY. THANK YOU.[02:36:01]
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DISTRICT IS RECONVENED AFTER GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AT[8. Adjournment]
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A TIME THAT I'M SURE THAT Y'ALL CAUGHT UP. FORGOT TO ANNOUNCE[02:36:14]
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ITEM 7L. THE NEXT ITEM IS 7M ADJOURNMENT. BEFORE WE ADJOURN,[02:36:27]
LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 13 IS THE DATE FOR OUR NEXT SCHEDULED BOARD MEETING. I BELIEVE YOU GOT THE LIST OF PROPOSED BOARD MEETINGS FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, SO THE PUBLIC WILL BE AWARE THIS. MS. MANN, WOULD YOU READ THOSE INTO THE RECORD? YOU HAVE THOSE HANDY? LEANA MANN: I DO NOT, BUT IT'S THE SECOND THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH, EXCEPT FOR MAY, AND THAT ONE IS THE SECOND TUESDAY.DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: AND WE'LL HAVE THE SO FOR ANYONE WHO'S LISTENING TO THIS AND WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR BOARD MEETINGS SECOND THURSDAY OF EVERY MONTH, EXCEPT FOR THE MONTH OF MAY, AND IT'S THE SECOND TUESDAY. AND SO MARK YOUR CALENDAR SO YOU CAN TUNE IN AND WE WELCOME PUBLIC WATCHING VIDEO PARTICIPATION AND WATCHING VIDEOS OF OUR MEETINGS. UM, LET'S SEE.
SHENGHAO WANG: CAN I ACTUALLY, I JUST HAVE A REQUEST FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: ACCORDING TO THE BOARD POLICIES THAT WE JUST ADOPTED, SHENGHAO WANG: I GO THROUGH THE OKAY, GREAT.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: YOU NEED TO WRITE, MAKE A NOTE AND SEND IT TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER.
SHENGHAO WANG: OKAY. AND THE PUBLIC JUST SEES THAT THROUGH THE POSTED AGENDA.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: AND YES, YES, THEY'LL SEE THAT ON THE AGENDA ON THE WEBSITE WHENEVER WE POST OUR AGENDA ITEMS, SHENGHAO WANG: OKAY, AND WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT IT.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY, OKAY.
SHENGHAO WANG: SO I WILL MOVE TO ADJOURN.
DEBORAH CARTWRIGHT: MR. WANG MOVED TO ADJOURN. IS THERE A SECOND? A SECOND FOR MISS CONLEY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. LOOK
FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL NEXT MONTH, AND I HOPE OUR
CHAIRPERSON IS SPEAKING BY THEN.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.